On 2023-May-07, at 1:54 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote:
> The comments about the tolerance of the 7812 were right, it doesn’t appear to 
> be an issue with the replacement 7812 regulator because when I tried using 
> the bench PSU to feed exactly 12V to the circuit from the output of the 7812 
> the comparator still gave the wrong result. It was still wrong if I applied 
> only 11V
> 
> I then looked at the value of Vz on the good and bad PSUs, when applying 12V 
> to the 7812 output. That was 5.4V in both the good and bad PSUs. Where I saw 
> a difference was on the -12V output, it was +0.4V on the good PSU and 0.56V 
> on the bad one (the voltage varied so this was an average). I checked the 
> voltage drop across the current sense resistor. It is 0.01V on the good PSU 
> and 0.08V on the bad PSU, which would explain the higher positive voltage on 
> the -12V output and the comparator being turned on.


From earlier measurements and the 45uA calc of current through the 51Ω sense 
resistor, the V across the 51Ω ISense-12 resistor should be only 0.002V.

So a question is where is this 0.08V coming from? An unfulfilled -12V supply 
for the E3 power pin might have been an explanation, as extra current might be 
drawn out of the E3d.+in input due to the +in being pulled below (negative to) 
the 
E3 -power pin. But you say that pin is connected to GND, so the source of the 
0.08V should be sought, some more comprehensive measurements around the E3d 
inputs / ISenseR might help.

From calculations from design/schematic:
  - E3d.+in should = 1/2 the voltage across the 51Ω ISense-12 resistor.
  - E3d.-in should = 0.033 V.
  - The trip condition to send the E3d output high (shutdown) is: V(ISR-12) > 
0.066V  (V across ISense-12 Resistor).

Also: Is that ISense-12 resistor really a 51Ω resistor? Or is it 5.1Ω or 0.51Ω? 
Again from calculation, 51Ω would imply a current limit of only 1.3mA, which is 
rather low.

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