I got the 8L pretty cheap on eBay a few years back after it had been stripped 
for parts so it’s been a long restoration project this is why I’m so attached 
to it. Now that I’ve learnt that for the L I won’t be running anything other 
than paper tape I’m ok with that as I do like the limitations. I think I’ll 
stop the search to add mass storage to the 8 and focus 100% on the data general 
systems which I prefer over Dec as then I don’t have to deal with many many 
flip chip cards


> On 8 Jan 2023, at 19:45, Ethan Dicks via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 6:40 AM jos via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>> On 08.01.23 01:51, jake utley via cctalk wrote:
>>> Hello everyone I’m a young collector (18) of 60s and 70s minicomputers and 
>>> micros. I have been restoring a PDP-8L and would love to find ether a 
>>> Diablo series 30 or Dec RK03 removable cartridge drive to go with this 
>>> system.
>> 
>> Is it even possible to add a diskdrive to a PDP8/L ? My 1970 "Small computer 
>> handbook" only mentions TU55/TC01 and DF32 as mass-storage options for the 
>> 8/L. Both are essentially unobtainable.
> 
> Indeed.  I have had a PDP-8/L since I was in High School (eons ago).
> I have never come up with mass storage for mine and it's long been a
> goal to be able to do more than paper tape programs on it.  Dry so
> far.
> 
> Posibus storage devices were, IME, less common than Negibus devices
> (which would then require a DW08 and by the time you bought all of
> that, why didn't you get a PDP-8-i in the first place? (especially
> since you were memory-limited on the -8/L)
> 
>> Maybe sell the 8/L and get yourself an 8/E or /F ? Much more flexible.
> 
> I do get wanting to max out an 8/L.  It was my first and I'd love to
> get it doing more things, and it's really cool that you can easily see
> what's happening at the gate level (possible but less convenient with
> an Omnibus machine), but there's only so much you can do with _any_ 4K
> PDP-8, and memory expansion boxes for the 8/L may be rarer than
> Posibus storage devices.  It's a lot easier to bring an Omnibus
> machine up to 32K and there are lots of vintage storage options.
> 
> Recreating these things with modern components is always a
> possibility, of course, but I've only ever seen a couple of one-off
> devices ever come out (like a Posibus DF32D emulator implemented in
> TTL that happens to need a now-hard-to-find 128Kx16 NVRAM)
> 
> Personally I'd love to see some Posibus devices get recreated but
> after this long, I'm totally willing to see if I could get SerialDisk
> working with an add-on serial port on an -8/L or unexpanded -8/i.
> 
> My own (perpetual) goal is to run OS/8 on a pre-Omnibus machine.
> Haven't pulled all the resources together for that yet.
> 
> -ethan

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