On Dec 22, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 5:35 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >> We used to shun anything newer than and including the IBM PC but >> time.marches on. You're safe if you discuss systems produced before 1990. >> After that put an OT in the front of your subject so as not to offend the >> purists. Personally I think anything built after 1995 is too new for >> cctalk, but thats just me. > > As mentioned elsewhere, the old "10 year" rule is long irrelevant. > > I think 1995 is a good general cut-off for a strictly time-based > threshold, but it's not a hard boundary - PPC Macs I would think > should still be in bounds. > > A softer rule would probably be "(nearly) anything goes except > nearly-current Windows PCs". If a machine can run WinXP, it's too > new. Also as mentioned, there are plenty of lists about modern PCs. > > -Ethan
For PC’s, being able to run WinXP is an interesting cutoff, and I think makes sense. Though in my case, my need for WinXP is due to a 35mm film scanner that only works with the OEM software, and that only runs on WinXP. Currently I use it via Parallels Desktop running on a 2010 Mac Pro. People lucky enough to have drum scanners run them with potentially older hardware, especially if connected to a Mac. I’ll argue that Intel-based Macs or newer are off-topic, and I say that even though I’m a heavy user of Macs, even 10+ year old ones, including having software that only runs on even older ones. I’d also argue pretty much any DEC Alpha, Sun, HP-UX, SGI IRIX, or non-PC IBM system is on topic. Even the current IBM z16 Mainframe is something of a classic in my mind. :-) Zane