On Wed, 2 Nov 2022, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote:

> > Did you have to replace the power LED at all? I've just bench-tested the PSU
> > I've swapped the X2 cap in (luckily it powers up without a load, so all I
> > did was hook up a DVM and check out the voltages), and I noticed that the
> > LED didn't light. I'm pretty sure I connected it back (and it is keyed!) so
> > I think I may be looking for a replacement. Something in the back of my mind
> > says that there is something that makes the replacement slightly non-trivial
> > (funny LED, odd housing it fits in, some trick to getting it out ... I can't
> > remember unfortunately).
> > 
> 
> The LED is more than just a power on indicator.  When it fails to light,
> it can indicate that something is not right in the PSU.  It may tie in
> with the "power good" output from the PSU.

 It does.  I have an H7821 PSU where the LED lights briefly upon power-on 
and then goes dark.  The PSU cannot be used to power a mainboard as it 
does not come up, however it works just fine with storage in an expansion 
box.  It is one of those that I recapped after leaks have appeared; in 
fact it is the one that made me aware of the problem in the first place.  
I'll have to get back to it sometime to get this sorted.

> It could be that it is failing to light because the regulation is not
> working properly because there is no load.  I'd try it with a load
> before anything else.  The H7822 may need a load on both boards.

 There's a 2Ω dummy load on the 5V line in storage expansion boxes powered 
by the H7821, so these do require minimum current to work correctly.

> > BTW was it just the 1800uF 25V 105degC caps (mine are brown) that you had to
> > replace? Mine look fine but there are some other large electrolytics in
> > there (two large brown 470uF voltage unclear, and one large black cap by the
> > mains input on which I cannot see any of the markings).
> > 
> 
> It was only the 1800uF 25V capacitors were bad (mine are all brown too).
> In an earlier posting I said there were six of them in a H7821 and ten of
> them in a H7822.  I should have said five in a H7821 and nine in a H7822.
> The 470uF 400V capacitors in my units were all fine.

 Same here, five 1800uF 25V caps to replace in the H7821 according to my 
notes.  Overall if you spot a cap that says SXF on it, then replace it 
right away whether already leaking or not.  These were made by Chemi-con.  
Other Chemi-con lines reported problematic are SXE and LXF, though from 
own experience they seem less prone.

 Also Nichicon PL and PF parts may have to be replaced, I have seen the 
former ones actually leaking in other DEC PSUs, such as the H7826, which 
is also infested by SXF parts in various capacitances.  Both kinds leaked 
in a generic industrial Bel Power PSU used with a Cisco device.

 Sadly the problem with component shortage has hit capacitors as well and 
some that used to be readily available are not anymore and prices have 
risen too.

 NB I wasn't aware about the problem with RIFA capacitors, it seems like I 
might have to replace them in several PSUs I have already recapped, sigh.  
I haven't seen any of them fail though, not at least in an obvious way.

 HTH,

  Maciej

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