Hi

    We have narrowed the problem down.

Its the instruction decode ROM's that are the issue.

The images of those are whats needed.

Regards Rod


On 09/02/2022 23:14, Sytse van Slooten via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 7:04 PM Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote:
I found
https://deramp.com/downloads/mfe_archive/011-Digital%20Equipment%20Corporation/08%20PDP-11/01%20PDP-1104-1134/05%20PDP-1104-1134%20Microcode/
which has the source code...

But I couldn't find the tools to use these files to create microcode
images.
Actually, the "m8266_ucode.v.txt" there seems to actually be the program that
produced the symbolic dump (which is also available at:

  http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/pdp11/1134/m8266_ucode.out.txt)

It looks like the program is in VHDL or something like that, but it doesn't
seem to have the actual microcode (was it stored/defined in another VHDL
file?); that raises the question of where the actual microcode that it was
dumping was.
It's Verilog (the 'other' hardware language besides VHDL), and indeed the rom 
images are in other files/modules - in some kind of straight binary format, I'd 
guess.

I'm properly intrigued why someone would choose to do this - which seems to be 
mostly listing the microcode in a readable format - in Verilog. Unless of 
course it would be with a long term goal of using that microcode in an emulator 
that is sufficiently like a 'real' 11/34 to run it unchanged. I wonder if that 
is the case, and what became of the project - since the files are from 2014, 
it's probably safe to assume it got stuck somewhere along the way.

Somewhere way down on my list of things to explore is something similar but 
then for the 11/70 - to make a vhdl version that is microcode compatible with 
the original, unlike the current pdp2011 that's 'only' functionally compatible. 
And this is about exactly the same way I would start - except I don't have the 
'70 rom images yet... If anyone has them and is willing to share, drop me a 
note ;-)

Cheers
Sytse


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