On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 1:08 PM <cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Send cctalk mailing list submissions to > cctalk@classiccmp.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cctalk-requ...@classiccmp.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cctalk-ow...@classiccmp.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of cctalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. (John Ames) > 2. Re: (Paul Koning) > 3. Re: (Jon Elson) > 4. Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up (Dave Mitton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 10:20:25 -0800 > From: John Ames <commodorej...@gmail.com> > To: ccl...@sydex.com > Cc: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Message-ID: > <cabcbcvp8sx_1rb3fxvxzuxx1suftfijbtqepd_szinerex7...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Back in the bad old days of the 5160 PC, some DTC controllers allowed for > > partitioning a drive (using witch settings) > I think "witch settings" is my new preferred term for this. They're > certainly mysterious and arcane enough. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 13:30:33 -0500 > From: Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> > To: John Ames <commodorej...@gmail.com>, "cctalk@classiccmp.org" > <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: > Message-ID: <b8f20f9c-a329-4ced-9a00-036eaa8f4...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > > On Feb 2, 2022, at 1:20 PM, John Ames via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Back in the bad old days of the 5160 PC, some DTC controllers allowed for > >> partitioning a drive (using witch settings) > > I think "witch settings" is my new preferred term for this. They're > > certainly mysterious and arcane enough. > > Nice. It would be a good term to apply to VMS SYSGEN parameters that are > documented as having units "microfortnights". > > paul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 16:49:42 -0600 > From: Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> > To: Paul Koning via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: > Message-ID: <b0989916-7493-481d-7c45-a696ce5ec...@pico-systems.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 2/2/22 12:30, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > > >> > > Nice. It would be a good term to apply to VMS SYSGEN parameters that are > > documented as having units "microfortnights". > > > A footnote in the system config guide noted that ufortnights > would be approximated at one second. > > Jon > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 14:31:27 -0500 > From: Dave Mitton <d...@mitton.com> > To: "cct...@classiccmp.org" <cct...@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up > Message-ID: <20220202193130.24edc4e...@mx2.ezwind.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 18:46:46 -0500 > From: Bob Smith <bobsmith...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: KMC11/DMC11 folllow up > Message-ID:
> I?ve been watching this thread go by, and never finding time to contribute?. > > I started in Aug 1977 and finished the CommIOP products from Bob and Harvey. > Clarise was no longer involved. > It was basically done, I just did the QA on them and released it. I did find > some bugs in the debugger we provided. > > I basically did KMC software support, on and off, going forward. When the > KMC-B came out (I think Remi did that) > I rev?ed the tools. I also did a KMC Tools package for VMS. I tossed > into that package a VMS line printer driver, I wrote as an example and POC, > that ran multiples LP11s at significantly better speed. We ran that in our > lab. The MIT LCS lab loved that. > > My memory is weak on things like the ?DMX? and other things that CSS did. > The Lab Products group built some successful data collection products around > the KMC. > > Attempts in the Comms HW group to do an updated UNIBUS DH never got off the > ground. We (NAC) did pitch the idea of using the CommIOP-DZ to VMS, as a > way to off-load character terminal loads, and they would have nothing to do > with it. For whatever reasons, they did not like the idea of smart devices. > > That led to the attempt to build a ?universal? terminal concentrator based on > an 11 networked into the system. That project was complicated by what it > tried to integrate, and took too long to build. It was overtaken by the > simpler LAT based products that DEC went forward with. > > George Conant, Bob Rosenbaum, and Pete Nesbeda left the company and founded > Xyplex that fielded successful products in this space. > > I could go on, but ? I do have copies of the KMC Tools doc and maybe the > CommIOPs, but no KMC hw docs. > Dave. > > Sent from Mail for Windows > > Hey Dave! I did not mention you because I was not sure you wanted to recall those days! you are correct it was Remi Lisee doing the design, I did the first line units, and then they were redone a few years later. Glad you piped in!! Hope you are doing great! All of you guys were brilliant, except Harvey, he was a royal pain, said with lots of laughs we both got tired or burning roms!! bob smith
