On Jan 18, 2022, at 8:58 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:
> 
>> As someone that has worked with computer tapes for nearly 40 years, I have 
>> to question the sanity of this.  These 
> tapes are *HOW* old?  What was their intended lifespan?  While we all like to 
> keep our hardware as original as possible, does it really make sense to try 
> to run systems in this day and age with QIC tapes?
> 
> Well, you gotta use something to back up those ESDI drives.
> 
> I'm finding the TK50's and TK70's to be pretty good, the big massive problem 
> with them is those two pulleys having the grease dried up. Since one of them 
> runs the tape tachometer they need to spin freely and smoothly.
> 
> Count the turns on the top bolt as you remove it, take off the pulleys, 
> lubricate or replace the bearings, reassemble, good for another 20 years or 
> so.
> 
> QIC.... Yeah that's not going to work well. Times change.

I’m also not using MFM or ESDI drives.  I converted my Q-Bus HW to SCSI 20+ 
years ago.  When I get it back up and running, I plan to convert it to SCSI2SD. 
 OTOH, I am trying, for some insane reason to get a DSSI system going.  I 
started converting my SCSI based DEC HW to SCSI2SD last summer.

Having said that, that’s good news on the TK50’s and TK70’s, I have a couple 
boxes in my office (so somewhat nicely stored) that I need to read, in my 
nonexistent free time.  My plan has been to buy a refurbished SBB that will 
read them.  I’m more likely to trust the TK50 in my PDP-11 than the 4mm DAT. 

I’ve read 30 year old 9-track tapes on production hardware, and I’ve read very 
old TK50’s (as well as other DLT-style tapes).  Things like QIC, 8mm, and 4mm, 
I try my best to avoid on production systems.

Zane



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