> Epay has messed the definitions up into a useless mess.
> 
> I'd expect  a vendor not selling on such to actually test the items.
> Whether they are warranted is a separate issue.
> 
> On ebay they've screwed over sellers to the point that it's all but
> wasting time to list there unless you sell either really new stock, or
> list as parts, junk only.
> 
> Any attempt to describe the item as refurbished will mean most buyer
> will claim a problem, Ebay will refund them and screw you.

Not sure what you mean here. Refurbished means that a seller has brought an 
item to the original operating specs and that the item will operate as it 
should. This is also eBay's meaning of refurbished. So I am not sure why you 
think they "screwed" it up.

The problem on eBay is that a seller will pull something out of a box that has 
been sitting on a shelf in the warehouse, at most hit it with some compressed 
air to get rid of dust, describe it as "refurbished" and list it for an 
exorbitant price. Whether it works or functions as intended is of no concern to 
them. With some electronics you can get away with this - simple add-on boards 
from the IBM PC era for example. Most of the time they will work and if it 
doesn't well prices or so jacked up that one non-refunded/completed sale will 
turn enough profit to cover the original S&H (which is usually the sellers 
actual real loss) on ten returns and still return a profit. With PSUs, whole 
systems, stuff with batteries this practice is more likely not to work.

Of course my personal favorites are the seller refurbished items that "worked 
the last time used but no guarantees and are sold as is". LOL. Makeup your mind 
is it refurbished or is it junk?

-Ali

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