On Aug 20, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
wrote:
> Interestingly enough, I remember another machine that was also called 11/74; 
> it existed in the RSTS/E lab in Merrimack (NH).  That one wasn't an MP 
> machine; instead, it was an 11/70 with additional microcode to add the CIS 
> (strings and decimal arithmetic) instruction set.  COBOL-11 could use this, 
> and indeed CIS was a supported product in some later machines.  But the 11/74 
> CIS machine never saw the light of day.
> 
> I don't know why not.  Perhaps it was not cost-effective given that it was a 
> physically large machine, no longer a state of the art architecture for the 
> time (around 1980).  One comment I heard is that it was forced to be canceled 
> because it could run COBOL faster than a VAX-11/780. No idea if that was true 
> (either the speed claim or the cancelation claim).  It has a faint ring of 
> plausibility to it; when the 780 came out, DEC made some noises that PDP-11 
> would disappear within just a handful of years.  It didn't take them all that 
> long to realize the absurdity of that notion.
> 
>       paul

Given what happened with the PDP-10, it seems very plausible that it was 
canceled due to the VAX-11/780.

Zane


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