> As I said, I don't have problems sending mail to Amazon, Microsoft or any of > the large (or small) email providers except for gmail.com and other Google > email services. It really is just Google. I do have DNS properly configured, > SPF in place and no TLS. I can't be bothered setting up TLS just to be able > to talk to Google when others report that they still can't get through to > Google even when they have TLS. > > Not only do Google not tell me why they will not deliver my emails to their > customers, they don't tell their customers why they block non-spam emails > that they want to receive either. The most a Google customer has ever been > able to pass on to me that Google given them by way of explaination was > something like: > > "This mail was tagged as spam because messages similar to it were spam" > > which of course is complete nonsense.
And just to add on a data point (Bill, I know you're not the enemy here), one of my personally-maintained mail servers does TLS and the other doesn't, I do have proper reverse DNS but used not to, and while I have SPF I've never done DKIM, and I've never had any trouble getting mail to Gmail. The only conclusion I can draw is that Google is arbitrary and doesn't care and I'm one of the rare beneficiaries of their arbitrariness. -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Roger Waters, orthopaedist: "Hey! Careful with your back, Eugene!" ---------