Fyi .. there seems to be a lots of Netware for sale on Ebay for some reason.
Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 9, 2020, at 10:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > On 9/9/20 5:08 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: >> But that's good, isn't it? > > Yes and no. > > Yes in that it's below the problem point. :-) > > No in that I don't have the necessary Support Pack's to install. :-( > >> I confess I may have misread your original message as being "I need NW5.1 >> with no SPs." Was that wrong? > > It might have been an ambiguity on my part. > > I've learned a little bit since my last message. > > I seem to have NetWare 5.1 (SP 0) for both "Domestic" (128-bit) and > "Exportable" (56-bit). But there is a catch. > > The exportable version is part of Novell Small Business Suite 5.1, which > seems to be a superset of NetWare 5.1. I don't yet know if I can bust it > down to be a more standard NetWare 5.1 without all the other unwanted NSBS > stuff. > > I did learn that NSBS 5.1 is the "Exportable" (56-bit) version and that it > comes with Exportable NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 1 as an install able option on > another disk. > > Said Exportable NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 1 will install on NSBS 5.1. But > given that it's the "Exportable" (56-bit) version, it won't install on > standard "Domestic" (128-bit) NetWare 5.1. That being said, I don't really > care about the 56-bit vs 128-bit. I just want stock NetWare 5.1 without all > the NSBS 5.1 ... features. I'll install just the few features that I want. > > Aside: NSBS 5.1 includes ZENworks (Starter?) and some other things that are > above and beyond stock NetWare. I don't want those ... features yet. I want > to learn more about stock NetWare 5.1. > >> But if you have SP0, no bugfixes, then surely you can just install the SPs >> on top of it to get to whatever level you want? > > The only Support Pack that I've been able to find thus far is Exportable > NetWare 5.1 Support Pack 1. I've not yet been able to locate any other > support packs. > > Well, I guess I can still get SP7 and SP8 from Novell's Patch Download. But > that's beyond what works with what I'm testing with Border Manager 3.5 > > It's a weird nitch that I'm trying to fit in. Early Domestic (128-bit) > NetWare with Support Pack > 0 and < 7. > >> My $DAYJOB was part of Novell until about a year ago. I _may_ be able to >> find internal download links still but I am not confident. Want me to start >> asking around? I may need some fairly specific info as there are few Netware >> folk left now. E.g. how many separate SPs did NW5.1 get? Do you need both >> US and ROW versions? > > I would be very interested in contacting someone at Novell ~> Micro Focus > about acquiring copies of what was freely downloadable ~20 years ago. > > I did take a swing (and apparently a miss) to contact someone at Micro Focus > a year or so ago. But that never went anywhere. But I'm not surprised that > a generic web contact us form didn't yield anything. > > Please ask questions that you need ~> want more information about, be it here > or directly off list (your choice). > >> Oh dear... > > Ya.... I'm not surprised. But it is making things ... tricky ... > entertaining. > >> TBH I have a suspicion nobody may have kept stuff like that, even inside >> Novell... :( > > Ya. That seems to be the way that a LOT of things have gone in the industry. > It's hobbyists like myself that tend to be archiving this stuff. I'm just > 15-25 years too late. > > I'm going through my NetWare disks (5.1 ~> 5.x ~> x.x) and getting a better > handle on what version / language(s) / encryption they are. > > Thank you for your time Liam. I appreciate your input and help. > > > > -- > Grant. . . . > unix || die
