On 2020-Apr-21, at 8:35 PM, Chris Zach wrote:
>> The D8 5V ref and the targetted output V are divided via R15 and R17,R18 to 
>> provide the sense input at E2.2.
>> If one does the R ratio of the three resistors, it comes out, as would be 
>> expected, to ~ 0V.
> 
> Ah hah, that is clever. I wonder if the .8 volts means the output is higher 
> than what should be expected and the op amp isn't amping down or something. 
> However if the op amp was blown it should just allow full voltage through. 
> Maybe (is there a crowbar circuit in there).
> 
>> I'm a little surprised there's that much difference between E2.2 & E2.3 ( 
>> (-0.022) - (-0.8) ) without sending the E2 output off to +V, but not sure 
>> how much device variability to expect normally.
> 
>> You might look for the on-board values of R15,17,18. If they have been 
>> changed from those values specified in the schematic, then the -12 may have 
>> been changed to -15 (could do the ratio calc).
> 
> I tried measuring the resistance in circuit, but that never works. It's 
> possible they are measuring out properly and that .6 volts is the 
> representation of too much voltage at the output side (-15 instead of the 
> expected -12).

Look at the marked (as opposed to measured) values of the (3) installed Rs, to 
see if they have been intentionally changed in a revision to alter the output V.


>> Also what is the V at Q4.E (should be ~ +2.6V), also Q4.B & C.
> 
> I'll check that tomorrow. Connecting Q4.E to B did bring the output voltage 
> down to pretty much zero so that does seem to work.

When Q4.BE shorted, E2.6 should swing well-negative.


> If I can't figure this out I might just pull Q10 and put a 7912 in its place. 
> One chip does the whole job of regulating the output, end of story. Bad me of 
> course, but what the heck and if the display came up I would know where the 
> problem was.
> 
> If it turns out the op amp is dead, would a 741 work as a replacement?

Note comment lower left corner of schematic page.

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