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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit? (Chris Zach)
2. Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit? (Guy Dunphy)
3. Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit? (ED SHARPE)
4. Re: Original DEC logo in PostScript (Stefan Skoglund)
5. Re: 50 yrs. ago today (Stefan Skoglund)
6. Re: OT(?): Emulation XKCD (Stefan Skoglund)
7. RE: Original DEC logo in PostScript (Rob Jarratt)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 13:37:02 -0400
From: Chris Zach <c...@alembic.crystel.com>
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?
Message-ID: <892fa3cb-ce81-1a92-f165-0c90c8f3f...@alembic.crystel.com>
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Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches
that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.
On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:
Has anyone seen this?? It looks like an 18-bit machine.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.? The CPU at the
bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a
custom logo.
Jon
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 08:39:47 +1100
From: Guy Dunphy <gu...@optusnet.com.au>
To: Chris Zach <c...@alembic.crystel.com>, "General Discussion: On-Topic
and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20191103083947.00e56...@mail.optusnet.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Well, it's sold. I hope someone here hought it, and will post some better pics
and details.
If it had been near to me I'd have bought it instantly. A rack, a Tektronix XY
display,
a rack drawer, blanking panels, some neat mysterious instruments, two 8" floppy
drives,
and a probable PDP-something all for $45?
Bet the various items are on slide rails too. How rare is it to get both parts
of
workable slide rails? Here in Oz, virtually unheard of. Separating slide halves
and losing
one half seems to be a near universal syndrome with people who part out test
equipment.
Guy (Australia)
At 01:37 PM 2/11/2019 -0400, you wrote:
Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches
that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.
On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:
Has anyone seen this??? It looks like an 18-bit machine.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.?? The CPU at the
bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a
custom logo.
Jon
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2019 22:56:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: ED SHARPE <couryho...@aol.com>
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Cheap minicomputer (Tracor-Northern 1610) on Facebook
Markeplace (Allentown, PA) 18 bit?
Message-ID: <2032848827.223085.1572735361...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
heck just the empty? rack? with? drawer is? worth that - -Yes Guy I know about
the anguish of half sets of rack? rails - we have that in Arizona also!? ?Ed#?
?SMECC
In a message dated 11/2/2019 2:40:15 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
Well, it's sold. I hope someone here hought it, and will post some better pics
and details.
If it had been near to me I'd have bought it instantly. A rack, a Tektronix XY
display,
a rack drawer, blanking panels, some neat mysterious instruments, two 8" floppy
drives,
and a probable PDP-something all for $45?
Bet the various items are on slide rails too. How rare is it to get both parts
of
workable slide rails? Here in Oz, virtually unheard of. Separating slide halves
and losing
one half seems to be a near universal syndrome with people who part out test
equipment.
Guy (Australia)
At 01:37 PM 2/11/2019 -0400, you wrote:
Indeed. I was thinking since it was a 16 bit bus but 18 bit switches
that it might be an 11/35 or 11/40 inside there. Interesting.
On 11/2/2019 11:35 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 11/02/2019 03:32 AM, cctalk--- via cctalk wrote:
Has anyone seen this??? It looks like an 18-bit machine.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/736222363558907/
At least at one time, these things contained PDP-11's.?? The CPU at the
bottom sure looks like a PDP-11,
I'm thinking it might actually be a Cal-Data CPU (PDP-11 clone) with a
custom logo.
Jon
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 14:37:21 +0100
From: Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skogl...@agj.net>
To: r...@jarratt.me.uk, Rob Jarratt <robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com>,
"General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk@classiccmp.org>, 'Jason T' <silent...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Original DEC logo in PostScript
Message-ID: <c93899d01b98e3360d49e7f99745000a3fdfb0a6.ca...@agj.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
tis 2019-10-29 klockan 17:48 +0000 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk:
I know next to nothing about PostScript and fonts, is it possible to
convert this to a font that can be installed on Windows? I found a
site that says it converts it (convertio.co), but I am suspicious of
free sites like that.
Regards
Rob
did you solve your problem ?
Either way doing RTFM - .pfm is binary encoded .afm.
I did a simple drawing with the font in a ps and exported to pdf.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 16:01:12 +0100
From: Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skogl...@agj.net>
To: Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net>, "General Discussion:
On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>, allison
<allisonporta...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 50 yrs. ago today
Message-ID: <2fe0ef07b99716c46cc8a853035b4b41db526052.ca...@agj.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
ons 2019-10-30 klockan 13:17 -0400 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
In some countries, at least in the early 1980s (Sweden?) the law said
that private organizations could run communication wires on a floor
of a building, but to wire from one floor to another was the monopoly
of the government PTT. So DEC Ethernet bridges had PTT approval
stickers on them from those countries, indicating those PTTs would be
willing to build you a bridged Ethernet from floor 1 to floor 2.
I remember stickers on modems and telephones (ie not televerket
provided equipment) which said that this equipment is certified
to be directly connected to televerket's telephone lines.
But computer network equipment owned by the organization and used
on the organization's premises ?? That i don't remember.
PS
Televerket : Sweden's state owned telephone monopoly, today
known by the public as Telia company. Ellemtel the development
organization was co-owned by Ericsson/LME/Three-bars and Televerket.
DS
PPS
LME still exist in name basically as a holding company for Ericsson.
DSS
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 17:14:29 +0100
From: Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skogl...@agj.net>
To: Zane Healy <heal...@avanthar.com>, "General Discussion: On-Topic
and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>, Charles Anthony
<charles.unix....@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT(?): Emulation XKCD
Message-ID: <c9c11fb4bbbd89a0067ad8d763da5fd085b7ed21.ca...@agj.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
ons 2019-10-30 klockan 16:01 -0700 skrev Zane Healy via cctalk:
I rebuilt the system recently, and now the error seems
intermittent. I will say, that backing up my directory of files, and
restoring it to the new system was a lot easier than fighting with
the tape drives we had on the DPS-8 Mainframes I worked with nearly
30 years ago (we ran GCOS-8).
My old university had an Pyramid with a normal tape drive - either
way one of my teacher had as his own last year student job being a
system administrator for said machine.
One day he had to restore from backup but finds out that the tape drive
is cranky.
One of his terse comments in the report was:
It is good to fix things immediately when the fault is found - not
waiting until you one day finds out that it is preferable to have said
thing in order.
He had to help the drive start (the drive was sluggish in startup) the
whole evening that day.....
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:03:51 -0000
From: "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com>
To: "'Stefan Skoglund'" <stefan.skogl...@agj.net>,
<r...@jarratt.me.uk>, "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts'" <cctalk@classiccmp.org>, "'Jason T'" <silent...@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Original DEC logo in PostScript
Message-ID: <03de01d59268$ab603240$022096c0$@ntlworld.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Skoglund <stefan.skogl...@agj.net>
Sent: 03 November 2019 13:37
To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt <robert.jarr...@ntlworld.com>; General
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org>; 'Jason T'
<silent...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Original DEC logo in PostScript
tis 2019-10-29 klockan 17:48 +0000 skrev Rob Jarratt via cctalk:
I know next to nothing about PostScript and fonts, is it possible to
convert this to a font that can be installed on Windows? I found a
site that says it converts it (convertio.co), but I am suspicious of
free sites like that.
Regards
Rob
did you solve your problem ?
Either way doing RTFM - .pfm is binary encoded .afm.
I did a simple drawing with the font in a ps and exported to pdf.
No I didn't. I did a little bit of searching but didn't find anything except
the convertio.co site, which I am reluctant to try unless someone knows it to
be safe. If anyone knows of a way to get this to a TrueType font that would be
nice. I know so little about fonts, I wonder if there is a way to manually
convert it to TrueType, are there any free tools for creating fonts?
Regards
Rob