> On Feb 4, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Jay Jaeger <cu...@charter.net> wrote: > > If he hasn't already, if Fritz has more than one memory board, he might > try swapping them to see if that changes anything.
I only have an 128kw MS11-L here to work with, unfortunately. Its been through a bunch of recent troubleshooting (tracking down and replacing failed DRAMs). I *think* its pretty solid at this point (also passing some of the hairier DEC diagnostics) but... I'd be happy to try out a different memory board if anybody was interested in sending out a loaner? (I'm in the SF Bay area). > The issue I'd see with the MMU swapout idea would be finding one that > would be ECO-compatible with the rest of the processor. Yes; per previous email. > Other things I might be tempted to try in order to coax more information > out of the situation: > > 1. Run the DEC system exerciser, if that has not already been done. Done; passes consistently. > 2. Make a copy of ls, and see if the copy also fails > (different location on disk would mess with timing just a bit). Also done; the copy appears to behave identically to the original. > 3. Use SimH to build a pack image with an instance of ls that is not > pure text (no -n or -i flag) > 4. Use SimH to build an ls that does/does not start the data segment > for ls at 0 (has / does not have the -i flag) [I have not looked to > see how ls would normally be built.] These may yet be interesting experiments. > 5. Use SimH to gen a pack image with a kernel that is a not split I/D The image I'm using is a /40-compatible one, built from the distro tape, the one that you get before going on to rebuild for /45. So, as Noel has reminded me, no split I/D. But we could try the opposite experiment (build a pack customized for /45) and see if that's different? The pain with that is that it takes me almost three hours to image a pack with PDP11GUI over my DL11, and I have a very limited set of packs with which to work (others on this list have graciously offered to help there; I need to send y'all some shipping boxes!) cheers, --FritzM.