On 12/20/2018 01:00 PM, Carlo Pisani wrote:
several reasons; we also use a similar board for a NAS, but basically, we like this board for the PCI bus, and for the JTAG

Okay.

we happen to have a BDI1000 JTAG ICE with a valid license for professional debugging software for the PPC/405, so it's really nice for us

That sounds like a compelling reason to use board(s) compatible with the software.

dunno. For us it's useful, and it's a need since we really need three LCDs connected to two nodes through a KVM in both dual screens and Xinerama setup (it depends on the context). These two PowerPC nodes are also connected to a Routerboard (bought yesterday), thus the whole system is able to bootstrap, well balanced on its load, able to load its services and it's also independent of everything else on the lan.

Okay.

PowerPC boards are not able to bootstrap from a harddrive/pendrive (the kernel's driver for the pATA chip is bugged and doesn't work, the firmware is ... theoretically able to load a raw file from a pATA device), they need to bootstrap from the lan, and the Routerboard is able to provide a good tftpbootp server plus other services to accomplish the task.

Intriguing.

What is the native OS, storage, and boot method for this board? It sounds like you might be purposing it for your own desires with a close but not perfect match.

We are also developing a RFID card to unlock/lock the machine (still experimental, and we are going to use an old 68HC11 board for this ... it's 80s technology)

Are you developing your own technology? Or are you re-using standard technology that's been around for a while?

I think Sun (and others) had X terminals that had smart card slots in them. This sounds functionally quite similar, just a few substitutions.

It's really a funny project made recycling old parts, and an old Apple PowerMac chassis. We also really like manually making parts, without a 3D printer. If you look at parts for the PSU, they were manually made by engraving the plastic! This is part of the fun :D

Fair enough.

anyway, I believe the system can be replicated with modern technology, say ... two or three RPIs in a modern case made by a 3D printer.

*nod*

That in and of itself does not make what you're doing bad or a waste of time.

IMHO if you're having fun (other than injuries), learning, reducing ewaste by reusing things you have, well that all sounds good to me.

well, we have a job in avionics, where PPC boards are used. We bought years ago a couple of boards from Newark and they were 1900 euro each, plus fees and S/H (FeDex).

Wow. Based on the conversion that I just did, those weren't anywhere near inexpensive.

Two years ago, I sold the last "codename eBony" (PowerPC460) couple of boards to a company in China for a super discount (500 euro both/second hand, instead of 1600 each/brand new). The DHT-boards that we are using are derived from a similar expensive board. There was a company in 2001 who made them, but ... it's difficult to find one nowadays. We had 2 little DTH boards in stock, and we decided to use for a personal project since they are definitively EOL once and forever and we don't want to support them in 2019.

Sounds like salvage parts to play with to me.

Again, the RPI is the super cheap choice since it's easy to be found (e.g. you can buy from RS, Mouser, et al), and it only costs around 30 euro.

*nod*

RPI is USB driven, not a problem, modern keyboards and mouses are USB, our is PS/2 but there are USB-to-PS/2 adapter for 5-10 Euro; The RPI is not VGA, it's HDMI, but yet again it's not a problem, there are VGA adapters (HDMI to VGA) for the RPI and VGA modules for the expansion port. This can be evaluated.

ACK

For a classic design (the 90s and 2000s design), we want to use VGA LCDs, VGA KVM, and PCI_VGA video adapters.

Fair enough.

yup, we are alone. I have already posted on the Linux mail-list, still no answer.

/Which/ Linux mailing list.  There are *many*.

Not a problem, it simply requires more time.

:-)

I was sort of asking because part of me would like to build something that looks like a DEC vt420 with a look alike (but physically smaller) case with an LCD (?) display. I've thought about running a Pi and running XTerm. But that's a pipe dream project for some other time.



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