On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 22:54, Grant Taylor via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 10/22/2018 08:14 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > *Every* Unix desktop out there draws on Win95. > > Nope. That's simply not true. > > The following three vast families of window managers / desktops prove > (to my satisfaction) that your statement is wrong. > > · Common Desktop Environment (a.k.a. CDE) and it's ilk. > · The various *Box window managers / desktop environments. > · Motif window manager and it's ilk. > > They are all significantly different from each other and from Windows's > Explorer interface, first publicly debuting with Windows 95. > > > The Win95 Explorer re-wrote the book on OS UI design. > > "A" book, maybe. I don't think it was "the" book. > > > The _only_ company to resist was Apple, because of course, some of the > > reasons that Win95 is the way it is are attempts to do things differently > > from Apple so as not to get sued. > > I think /company/ is critical in that statement as it implies for profit > business which excludes many other non-business related options. Even > then, IBM, Sun, HP, etc were releasing commercial Unixes with CDE and / > or Motif after Windows 95.
See my comments in the other thread. It's pointless to compare environments from _before_ Win95 as a way of saying that Win95 didn't influence them! And plain WMs aren't desktops. In my long comment in the other thread, I've been very generous in what I'm calling a "desktop" but at the least it has to be a cohesive environment offering accessory programs and features such as file management, text editing, and so on. A bunch of terminals in a window manager are not a "desktop environment". -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven UK: +44 7939-087884 - ČR (+ WhatsApp/Telegram/Signal): +420 702 829 053
