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> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel
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> Subject: Re: Honeywall mainframe CPU front panel ID?
> 
>     > From: Dave Wade
> 
>     >> All CPU's were upgradable on site to any other model. There wasn't
>     >> really any difference between the models
> 
> Yes and no, is my impression. I got the impression from my recent reading
> that the addition of the Appending Unit used to create the Multics
> segmented memory meant changes throughout the CPU, so that in any line
> (Multics/GCOS) a CPU could be field upgraded, but one couldn't upgrade
> from one line to the other.
> 

That's actually how I see it. I meant within the 600/6000/L66/DPS line.
After doing more reading it looks like the three generations so transistor
(600?), TTL (6000, L66, DPS100/200/300) and MOS (some of the DPS8) systems
had different panels. 
I think there is one other difference. The 600 and 6000 models had core
memory. L66 onwards had solid state memory..


>     >> Later models also had virtual memory which I think used the MULTICs
>     >> hardware....
> 
> No, I think GCOS had it's own. (The Multics one was complex, a lot more
than
> GCOS needed.)
> 

Ah yes that makes sense.

>     >> so whilst its possible to say a panel is not from a multics box, I
>     >> don't think its possible to say exactly which model it came from,
and
>     >> indeed as the CPU was upgradable the same panel could have been on
>     >> multiple models
> 
> Good point.
> 
>     > Actually looking at this manual:-
>     > http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/honeywell/dps-
> 8/58009853_DPS8_46_70_Reference_Man_Sep82.pdf
>     > these are from the original hardware GE600/6000/L66/DPS300 machines.
>     > The DPS8 had a redesigned panel...
> 
> Thanks for that pointer! I don't know why I hadn't thought of looking for
> Honeywell CPU manuals, that should have been obvious!!
> 

Glad you found the link usefull...

> Anyway,I found several with useful bits, especially this one:
> 
>   http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/honeywell/multics/AM81-
> 04_maintPrcds_Nov86.pdf
> 
> which does illustrate a number of the panels. From which it's pretty
> conclusive that these aren't Multics CPU panels (sigh).
> 
> These two:
> 
>  http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/honeywell/multics/GB61-
> 01B_OperatorsGde_Dec87.pdf
>  http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/honeywell/multics/_58009997-
> 040_MULTICS_Differences_Manual_DPS_8-70M_Aug83.pdf
> 
> are also interesting in filling in the history.
> 
>       Noel

I just wish I had kept more of my Honeywell documentation...

Dave

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