On 6/24/2016 4:36 PM, Fritz Mueller wrote:
Hi All,

In bringing up and debugging my PDP 11/45, I found that one of my GRA (M8101) spares has a failed ALU subsidiary ROM. It's a pretty standard little 32x8 ROM in a 16-pin DIP, and the truth table is in the 11/45 print set.

I wonder what the replacement options are for parts like these? In particular, given the 30ns micro-cycle on the KB11-A, and the fact that the propagation time for the ALU downstream of this is roughly 20ns on its own, I'd be worried that an off-the-shelf bipolar PROM might be too slow here.

I'm still a little slow on reading the microcode flows, so its not clear to me exactly how many micro-cycles there are on the critical path for the E-class instructions where this ROM is used. Maybe its not an issue.

Anybody every try replacing one of these with a bipolar PROM? Any other suggestions for how to repair parts like these?

        cheers,
             --FritzM.

Almost 100% certainty the part already there is a small bipolar TTL PROM. What would you think it otherwise might be?

For a lot of these logic replacement applications DEC used the open collector version, but it might be tristate variation. Check schematic.

Also, the microcycle on the 11/45 (and 11/70 for that matter, basically the same design) is 150ns, not 30ns.

There are various clock timing pulses (tp1, tp2, etc) but the datapath / control unit microcycle is 150ns.

Don


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