Thanks Don. I did read that thread previously  but I will do so again in case I 
missed a finer point in it. 

Rich

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> On Mar 10, 2016, at 11:09 PM, Don North <no...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/10/2016 7:02 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
>>> On 3/10/2016 9:36 PM, Richard Cini wrote:
>>> Separately… John — the SLUs are at what I think are the standard addresses 
>>> and vectors (per the Heathkit and DLV11-J manuals) and the ODT and TU58EM 
>>> work. I don’t know what RT-11 is looking for but the console @ 177560/60 
>>> and TU58 @ 176500/300 (Channel 3 and Channel 0 in DLV11-J parlance). I have 
>>> not tried booting SIMH with the TU58 image (not sure how to do that; need 
>>> to work on it). Regarding getting a real RX01 or RL02, the issue for me is 
>>> space. It’s pretty convenient using a laptop and TU58EM (providing I can 
>>> get something other than XXDPD2D to work). If someone has already built 
>>> bootable TU58 RT-11 images, I haven’t found them yet.
>> 
>> I have doubts that taking an RK05 image, and copying the DD: bootstrap in 
>> like that, and then simply taking that modified RK05 image and attempting to 
>> boot it as a TU58... I'm not sure if that could work.  Just seems like 
>> there'd been some structural differences.  But I could be wrong.
>> 
>> I forget if either SIMH or Ersatz emulates a TU58.. but if they do, try 
>> making an empty tape container (I think TU58EM can do this) and then build 
>> up and RT11 system as outlined in the manual using one of the emulators.  
>> Make sure it can boot in the emulator (if that's possible).
>> 
>> Do you know for sure if a real TU58 can even run RT-11?   Never tried it.
>> 
>> p.s.  you could also get yourself a qbus SCSI card, and have a much smaller 
>> disk subsystem.
>> 
>> - J.
> 
> Creating/running an RT-11 image on a TU58 tape, and then booting/running it 
> under TU58EM has been
> discussed in the past. I would suggest reading thru this thread, as it did 
> succeed in building a bootable
> TU58 RT-11 image:
> 
> http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?39372-Wanted-RT-11-OS-as-a-TU-58-image/page2&highlight=tu58em
> 
> RT-11 can run from a TU58 disk (tape) as demonstrated above, on real PDP-11 
> hardware.
> 
> SIMH has never directly supported mounting/attaching virtual TU58 devices. 
> Altho the required serial interface
> is emulated (ie, a plain DL11 at 776500/300) the TU58 drive behind the serial 
> interface has never been emulated.
> 
> Theoretically one could attach the emulated serial port in SIMH to a real 
> serial port that TU58EM is connected to
> (or use something like comOcom on windows to wire together virtual serial 
> ports) and run TU58EM with SIMH,
> but I know of noone doing this (I never have, altho I believe it is 
> technically possible to do).
> 
> I believe that ERSATZ-11 has integrated support for TU58 image support 
> mounting, so that might be the way
> to go to build a TU58 image under simulation.
> 
> I have seen rumblings that someone might be working on a virtual TU58 device 
> for SIMH, but maybe it is just
> an idea at this point for a rainy day. The code would be pretty 
> straightforward I suspect.
> 
> Don

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