On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:35 AM, tony duell <a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >> I guessed that might be the case... any suggestions for what were >> common pinouts and signals used? I can analyze 'backwards', testing > > There were just about as many parallel interface versions as devices > that used them back then..... Nothing 'common' really... > > The idea of 7 or 8 data lines, a strobe, and a ready signal was > certainly arround back then, but the timing, polarity (active high > or low) and timing were not standardised. A couple of examples > that I can see without getting up are the Facit 4070 paper > tape punch and the HP9866A thermal printer. Those were > both around in the early-mid 1970s and are rather different > parallel interface. > > OK, what I would do to get some idea is focus on those 7475 chips. Get > the pinout. The most obvious use for them on this board is as the > character input latch. IIRC each is really 2 2-bit latches, so 2 enable/clock > pins on each chip. So : > > 1) Are the 4 clock pins linked together (if so, it loads a character at a > time [1]), > or are they in pairs or what > > 2) Where do the D inputs go? Are any of them linked together, or do 7 or > 8 of them go to the interface connector? If the latter, then those are the > data > inputs. > > [1] Before anyone suggests you could use them as a sort-of shift register and > load > half a character into one, then copy it into the second one while loading the > other half > character, remember the 7475 is a transparent latch, not an edge-triggered > flip-flop > making this a very difficult thing to do. > > If you can identify the data lines on the connector you are getting there. > See if you > can trace the other pins to inputs or outputs. > > -tony
Tony, good advice but probably more work than I'm inclined to put in. As you said there were many interfaces with different standards - different polarities and timing - and either way it's quite likely this will never work with a standard modern parallel port without building some converter, after first finding out what has to be converted and designing it! There are seven lines in parallel all going through that Allen Bradley pullup network so I'm tentatively assuming it's accepting seven bit parallel data so one character at a time - not nybbles or anything else. That leaves three other lines which I'm assuming are some kind of strobe; 'busy' or a functional equivalent; and the one we know is 'paper out'. That's enough for a working interface. Timing and levels undetermined as you said. I did have what I technically refer to as a 'poke' at it last night; sent some text to the raw parallel device from a Linux box - and was able - inconsistently - to get the Selectric mechanism to cycle intermittently by rapidly inserting and removing jumpers in the breakout box on the seven presumed data lines; essentially triggering a kinda 'manual' strobe. So something is kinda sorta getting through and I think I may leave it at that - unless I stumble across any doc. I tried it with the presumed 'busy' and 'strobe' lines connected in various ways that might make logical sense but could never get it to 'just work' and accept and print characters or continuously print a stream of characters; it just cycled the mechanism intermittently on manually making and breaking connections on the data lines as I said. So I suspect the strobe/busy signaling is something different from standard parallel. And of course I have no idea of the bit order on those data lines; I have a seven-way matrix of possible combos so hitting the right one to actually print valid characters might be a job of work! If and when I do remove the Western I/O stuff and convert it to the Arduino full serial terminal I'll photograph document and keep what I remove - so it could be restored to 'as converted' condition in the future if anyone wants to try it! Mike http://www.corestore.org 'No greater love hath a man than he lay down his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, not for fame. For one person, in the dark, where no one will ever know or see.'
