On 2015-Oct-28, at 4:41 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 7:32 PM, Brent Hilpert <hilp...@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
>> On 2015-Oct-28, at 2:45 PM, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 28, 2015, at 12:58 PM, feldma...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> A core memory unit from Gemini 3 is up for auction:
>>>> http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news/2015/10/auction-memory-first-computer-space?et_cid=4906629&et_rid=742193094&location=top
>>>> 
>>>> Comical.  "Chip" indeed.  And "first use of core memory ... in an era of
>>>> rotating drum memory" -- in 1965?  I wonder why they have such a clueless
>>>> person write their blurbs.
>>>> 
>>>>      paul
>>> Seems like it's worth is totally dependent on its provenance...how do you
>>> prove that?
>> 
>> Not a proof in entirety of the claim, but from a ref and looking at the 
>> closeup pics from the auction website, it is an unusual form of core memory 
>> where the cores have two holes through them, like a blocky figure 8, 
>> apparently an aspect of a technique to achieve non-destructive readout. This 
>> is quite unusual and would go some ways to showing a provenance to the 
>> Gemini project.
>> 
> I didn't realize there is any such thing as non-destructive read core memory. 
>   Google does turn up a few obscure articles about such things.  It doesn't 
> seem to have caught on, and I wonder why it was used here.
> 
> So that phrase actually may be accurate.  But does that clearly tie it to 
> Gemini?  And even if it does, that doesn't amount to provenance as a flight 
> item; it might just as easily have been a spare, or a failed test module, or 
> something similar that never left the ground.
> 
>       paul

No, it doesn't, without more research  (that's why I qualified the observation 
with "not a proof in entirety").
I'm just noting:

        - A source describes this type of memory as being used in the Gemini 
computer.

        - It's a very unusual form of core memory - I had never heard of it 
before either -
           so there's not a lot of other equipment for it to have come from.
           The techique may even only ever have been used in Gemini.

        - The matrix size of 4096 is consistent with that described for Gemini, 
although that is a common matrix size.


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