Dear Anna,

The absolute map value that Coot displays – i.e. the 0.115 in your “0.115 V = 
5.5 rmsd” – is the raw value from the map file, and should be equivalent to the 
“Level” shown in the Volume Viewer in Chimera or ChimeraX (as long as the step 
value is set to 1).

If you set the contour levels to the same number, the map should appear very 
similar in both programs.

Note that when working with cryo-EM maps, you should usually ignore the rmsd 
value and focus only on the absolute values, because the rmsd will change if 
the map is masked, cropped or padded and the absolute values won’t.

Also note that Coot changes the unit: if it thinks the map is from cryo-EM it 
shows “V” and if it thinks it is from crystallography it shows “e/A^3”. 
Sometimes it picks the wrong one, but it doesn’t matter and in both cases the 
values are the same.

Best wishes,
Colin


From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of anna anna
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2024 11:13 AM
To: ccp4bb <ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk>
Subject: [ccp4bb] contour level for cryoEM deposition: coot vs chimera

Dear all,
I am depositing my first cryoEM structure and I am facing the following problem 
concerning the contour level of the map.

Briefly, where do I find the value for the contour level to associate to the 
uploaded map in Coot?

Long story: I worked with coot and I am happy with my map when I set the 
contour level at 0.115 V = 5.5 rmsd (actually "happy" is not the best 
definition, I feel quite uncomfortable with this "by feeling" assignment but, 
to what I understood, this is how it works...).
Upon deposition, when I upload maps, a contour level is required but the values 
from coot are not accepted, I have to provide the contour level relative to the 
map value, like the one that you set in Chimera. Thus I opened the map in 
Chimera and I set a contour level "by eye" but the validation report revealed 
some problems: the total volume of the map is too low and too many residues are 
highlighted as out of density. Probably I should low the contour level but I 
don't want to go for a trial-and-error approach, there must be a way to convert 
the contour level from coot (the one that I used for modelling) in the one 
required for deposition!

Any advice?

Thank you,
Anna

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