Dear Valeh
Apologies, I was solely replying to the numbering/labelling of waters 
observation/query of Mohamed, ie as a function of in situ parameter (time, 
temperature and pressure). 
Best wishes 
John 

Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc

> On 1 Nov 2021, at 18:39, Oganesyan, Vaheh <vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi John,
>  
> Thank you for explanation.
> The most recent encounter I had on this issue was with 3DMM and 3B9K. You 
> would know better what caused chain renaming here, but it doesn’t look like 
> any of the two scenarios you describe. Whatever the reason was I’m glad to 
> hear that this is not a widespread rule that applies to all structures.
>  
> Regards,
> Vaheh Oganesyan, Ph.D.
> 
> R&D | Biologics Engineering
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>  
>  
>  
> From: John Berrisford <j...@ebi.ac.uk> 
> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: Oganesyan, Vaheh <vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com>
> Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] renaming chains
>  
> Dear Vaheh
> 
> Usually we do not rename chains as part of the curation procedure.
> There are instances when we do, for example when a chain has to be split 
> into two chains and a new chain has to be defined, but this isn't 
> typical.
> 
> Because of this the wwPDB mmCIF file for each entry will usually contain 
> the chains as defined by the depositor.
> If two letter chain IDs were used by the depositor then this is 
> incompatible with the PDB format and a best effort PDB file is created. 
> This will contain remapped chain IDs with a single letter for the 
> chains.
> If you are using this best effort PDB file then I would encourage using 
> the mmCIF file instead.
> 
> If this is not the case, please can you share examples through our 
> helpdesk (deposit-h...@mail.wwpdb.org) where this has occurred so we can 
> investigate.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> John
> 
> On 2021-11-01 15:00, Oganesyan, Vaheh wrote:
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > This question is mostly for RCSB and PDBe: why are you renaming chains
> > in the deposited PDB files? Why does it matter what letter is assigned
> > to the chain? For 1,2 or 3 chain structures it is manageable, but for
> > more chains and/or many complexes per asu this becomes quite a
> > challenge. And if chains are similar in shape it is a real pain.
> > Reading associated manuscripts and looking at those structures is an
> > additive that feels unnecessary.
> > 
> > Thank you in advance for explaining the logic behind.
> > 
> > Vaheh Oganesyan, Ph.D.
> > 
> > R&D | Biologics Engineering
> > 
> > One Medimmune Way, Gaithersburg, MD 20878
> > 
> > T: 301-398-5851
> > 
> > vaheh.oganes...@astrazeneca.com
> > 
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