Hi Robbie,

I guess that solves part of the problem. But when I generate a new set of
maps with F1=FWT and PHI=PHWT and load them into Pymol, they are still not
comparable to those in Coot. Again, the maps for ligands 1 and 2 in Pymol
look about the same.

Best,
Chris

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On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:26 PM Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> You made an Fobs map not a 2Fo-Fc map. You can leave sigma empty if you
> want to make a map in this case.
>
> Cheers,
> Robbie
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
> > Chris Fage
> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 14:00
> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] 2Fo-Fc maps in Coot vs. Pymol
> >
> > Dear Paul, Herman, Robbie, and Santosh,
> >
> > Thanks for your quick replies.
> >
> > The FFT-generated maps and mtz maps look roughly equivalent in Coot, but
> > there are minor differences even at the same e/A^3 level (the mtz maps
> > actually look a bit weaker). I generated them using the default settings
> in
> > FFT: simple map, format to cover asymmetric unit, F1=F_XDSdataset,
> > Sigma=SIGF_XDSdataset, PHI=PHIC. Perhaps, as Robbie mentioned, the
> > problem lies in column selection, since Coot uses FWT and PHWT. I can
> assign
> > F1 and PHI to these values, respectively, but what should I choose for
> Sigma?
> >
> > My version of Pymol doesn't support loading of mtz files. I think it's
> only in
> > the incentive version.
> >
> > Paul wrote: "No need to do this - just export the map (or the map
> > fragment)." I'm not sure how to do this without going through FFT!
> >
> > I can also try generating maps in Phenix, as Santosh suggested. However,
> if
> > the maps can be directly exported, as Paul suggested, I would prefer to
> > follow that route.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
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> > On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 12:49 PM Santhosh Gatreddi
> > <santhoshgl2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >       Hi Chris,
> >
> >       I also observed similar thing when I have generated 2Fo-Fc maps in
> > CCP4 FFT. But when I have generated 2Fo-Fc maps in Phenix then my maps
> > were similar  in Pymol and Coot. I request you to generate maps with
> Phenix
> > and verify it in Pymol. It worked for me.
> >
> >       One possible reason for this is map averaging in Pymol. Make sure
> > that you uncheck it before loading your map in Pymol.
> >
> >       I hope that above suggestion works for you.
> >
> >       Regards,
> >       Santhosh
> >
> >       On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 4:06 PM Chris Fage <fage...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >               Dear All,
> >
> >               I recently obtained structures of a protein bound to two
> > different small molecules. When viewing the structures in Coot with a
> similar
> > contour setting, the 2Fo-Fc map around ligand 1 is clearly much weaker
> than
> > that around ligand 2.However, after generating 2Fo-Fc maps in FFT and
> > loading them in Pymol (again, choosing equal contour levels), the maps
> > surrounding ligands 1 and 2 have nearly the same quality. Is there a
> > difference in scaling between the two programs that can account for this?
> > Thanks for any advice!
> >
> >               Best wishes,
> >               Chris
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