Sorry, I meant to write "note that not all achiral space groups are 
centrosymmetric", since most are. However, even as written it's true, but less 
obvious...

Harry
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> On 7 Mar 2019, at 10:23, CCP4BB <hrp-ccp...@virginmedia.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> A genuine question; I'm wondering how well Phaser (or other MR programs) 
> deals with achiral space groups and the presence of both hands of a molecule 
> (just because you can have both hands of a chiral molecule related 
> crystallographically in a crystal, you don't need a centrosymmetric space 
> group - note that not all achiral space groups are not centrosymmetric...).
> 
> Harry
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> Dr Harry Powell
> 
>> On 7 Mar 2019, at 10:11, Prasun Kumar <prasun.ku...@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim: 
>> 
>> Thanx for your response and sorry for late acknowledgment . 
>> You are right, the peptide is forming an oligomer. I have used Xia2 and 
>> pipeline 3dii with small_molecule=true option as suggested earlier by 
>> Pierre. Now the space group is P-1.
>> I will check for SHELXT. 
>> So far the molecular replacement is a problem for me. However, I am on it. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> Prasun
>> From: Tim Gruene <tim.gru...@posteo.net>
>> Sent: 05 March 2019 10:02:53
>> To: Prasun Kumar
>> Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk
>> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Racemic crystallography and structure solving problem
>>  
>> Dear Prasun,
>> 
>> in case you get atomic resolution (better than about 1.2A), you should be 
>> able 
>> to solve the structure with direct methods, e.g. SHELXT.  You may want to 
>> check the processing if the cell is really this big. Unless you have several 
>> copies in the asymmetric unit, one might expect a smaller cell for only 30 
>> residues. You can also try alternative programs, like XDS - start with 
>> XDSGUI 
>> in case you are not familiar with XDS from the command line.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, March 4, 2019 4:33:20 PM CET Prasun Kumar wrote:
>> > Hi All:
>> > 
>> > I have performed racemic crystallography and got crystals that diffracted.
>> > The automatic processing softwares, XIA2 DIALS, (available in Diamond, UK)
>> > gives the space group as P1 and cell dimension
>> > 42.78 52.16   54.49   114.11  92.16   92.31.
>> > 
>> > Challanges start from here:
>> > 
>> > 1) How much I should be assured of the space group as I expect my peptides
>> > to get crystallized in the same group, but by default we get the same space
>> > group. 2) Is there any seperate method for processing the raw images in my
>> > case.
>> > 
>> > I used the merged .mtz file for phasing. However, I always get the warning
>> > that eLLG score is low and it is difficult to fit a single copy of the
>> > ensemble. CC1/2 and I/SigI are in acceptable range. Completeness is also
>> > more than 95%.
>> > 
>> > My peptides, 30 residues long, form an oligomer. However, I do not have
>> > reliable model of oligomers to start with. I have taken a single helix of
>> > length 24, 12 and 6 residues to phase, but no luck so far. Any guidelines
>> > will be really helpful.
>> > 
>> > I am happy to provide any other relevant information, if one wants.
>> > 
>> > Thanx in advance
>> > Prasun
>> > 
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