Hi all

A genuine question; I'm wondering how well Phaser (or other MR programs) deals 
with achiral space groups and the presence of both hands of a molecule (just 
because you can have both hands of a chiral molecule related 
crystallographically in a crystal, you don't need a centrosymmetric space group 
- note that not all achiral space groups are not centrosymmetric...).

Harry
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Dr Harry Powell

> On 7 Mar 2019, at 10:11, Prasun Kumar <prasun.ku...@bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim: 
> 
> Thanx for your response and sorry for late acknowledgment . 
> You are right, the peptide is forming an oligomer. I have used Xia2 and 
> pipeline 3dii with small_molecule=true option as suggested earlier by Pierre. 
> Now the space group is P-1.
> I will check for SHELXT. 
> So far the molecular replacement is a problem for me. However, I am on it. 
> 
> Regards
> Prasun
> From: Tim Gruene <tim.gru...@posteo.net>
> Sent: 05 March 2019 10:02:53
> To: Prasun Kumar
> Cc: CCP4BB@jiscmail.ac.uk
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Racemic crystallography and structure solving problem
>  
> Dear Prasun,
> 
> in case you get atomic resolution (better than about 1.2A), you should be 
> able 
> to solve the structure with direct methods, e.g. SHELXT.  You may want to 
> check the processing if the cell is really this big. Unless you have several 
> copies in the asymmetric unit, one might expect a smaller cell for only 30 
> residues. You can also try alternative programs, like XDS - start with XDSGUI 
> in case you are not familiar with XDS from the command line.
> 
> Best,
> Tim
> 
> 
> On Monday, March 4, 2019 4:33:20 PM CET Prasun Kumar wrote:
> > Hi All:
> > 
> > I have performed racemic crystallography and got crystals that diffracted.
> > The automatic processing softwares, XIA2 DIALS, (available in Diamond, UK)
> > gives the space group as P1 and cell dimension
> > 42.78 52.16   54.49   114.11  92.16   92.31.
> > 
> > Challanges start from here:
> > 
> > 1) How much I should be assured of the space group as I expect my peptides
> > to get crystallized in the same group, but by default we get the same space
> > group. 2) Is there any seperate method for processing the raw images in my
> > case.
> > 
> > I used the merged .mtz file for phasing. However, I always get the warning
> > that eLLG score is low and it is difficult to fit a single copy of the
> > ensemble. CC1/2 and I/SigI are in acceptable range. Completeness is also
> > more than 95%.
> > 
> > My peptides, 30 residues long, form an oligomer. However, I do not have
> > reliable model of oligomers to start with. I have taken a single helix of
> > length 24, 12 and 6 residues to phase, but no luck so far. Any guidelines
> > will be really helpful.
> > 
> > I am happy to provide any other relevant information, if one wants.
> > 
> > Thanx in advance
> > Prasun
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