Hi Frank on the same lines: do we keep our crystals after frying them? Or do molecular biologists keep their agarose gels? Hummm... evolution and technologies do progress.
Yet, I would support keeping images, just as you may (but really will most likely never) want to re-process those with new software approaches etc. few years after the paper has been published ^^ Cheers, leo - Leonard Chavas - Synchrotron SOLEIL Proxima-I L'Orme des Merisiers Saint-Aubin - BP 48 91192 Gif-sur-Yvette Cedex France - Phone: +33 169 359 746 Mobile: +33 644 321 614 E-mail: leonard.cha...@synchrotron-soleil.fr - > On 13 Jul 2018, at 16:36, Frank von Delft <frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > > Are the LHC researchers that analyse the detector readout on the fly without > ever storing the data also guilty of malpractice? Hardcore. > > Just a few more years, a few more Eiger detectors, a few more serial > beamlines, a few more clusters and clouds, and a few more DIALS-style > programmers, before MX too throws in the towel and starts trusting > real-time processing and stops bothering with storing "raw" images. > phx. > > > On 13/07/2018 11:07, John R Helliwell wrote: >> Dear Sergei, >> Re “all”. As a researcher my perspective is that one’s funding agency >> requirement for a data management plan will be the core of what you would >> need to follow. Your employer may have additional policies and requirements >> placed on you as an employee. Eg the UK funding agency EPSRC requires data >> be retained for 10 years. My employer, University of Manchester, has a >> policy which regards data loss as research malpractice. >> Central facility data retention policies vary from facility to facility so >> you would need to check ie for the ones you use. >> For publication IUCr encourages raw data underpinning a publication be >> archived and its doi cited. That doi can also be entered into the relevant >> PDB deposition. >> Best wishes, >> John >> >> >> Emeritus Professor John R Helliwell DSc >> >> On 13 Jul 2018, at 10:30, Sergei Strelkov <sergei.strel...@kuleuven.be> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> >>> I believe this question may be of some interest. >>> In the past, we always stored all raw data ever collected by the lab. >>> >>> With the recent advances, such as >>> (a) automated/on-the-fly processing offered by some (European) >>> synchrotrons, and >>> >>> (b) an ongoing discussion on centralized raw data archiving, >>> >>> I wonder if it is time to revise the strict policy of keeping all data >>> (before we invest in a new NAS system... ) >>> >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> Sergei >>> >>> Prof. Sergei V. Strelkov Laboratory for Biocrystallography Department of >>> Pharmaceutical Sciences, KU Leuven >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>> >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> > > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1
