I would also point out that a key part of the technique described in the 
reference below is to vary the temperature. The Lenhoff group published a nice 
study on protein phase behavior where they talk about liquid-liquid phase 
separation amongst other things. Figure 1 of the paper (Dumetz et al, Biophys 
J. 94, 570-583, 2008, 10.1529/biophysj.107.116152)  can be recast in the 
conventional phase diagram space and shows how temperature affects the gelation 
point and can be used to shift the phase.

Cheers,

Eddie

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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Kevin Jude
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 4:41 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] suggestion on protein crystallization optimization from 
phase separation

I had success once by varying the drop volume ratios as described here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2203341/
although we ended up getting data from a different crystal form.
~1 M LiSO4 is a surprising condition for cocrystallizing protein and DNA if 
they aren't covalently or topologically linked. Best of luck to you.
kmj

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 8:16 AM, Joseph Ho 
<sbddintai...@gmail.com<mailto:sbddintai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear all:

I would like to seek your suggestion on protein crystallization from
phase separation.
We recently observed many small round droplets shown in our
protein/DNA crystallization. Condition are 0.8M-1.6M LiSO4; 20mM
MgCl2; pH 5-8;  protein conc. ~15mg/ml). The UV microscope confirms
those are protein-rich phase separation.
We have tried to change conc. of LiSO4 and pH. Still we got different
size and amount of small round droplets. At 20 degree, those droplets
appear within one day and at 4 degree, it takes two-three days.  We
also tried additive and silver bullet screen. So far, we have not
found a condition to have protein crystals. The protein is already
truncated. Several DNA constructs are on-going.
At this point, I would like to seek your advice on the method to
optimize the condition. Based on


PS. Any people have luck with protein crystallization by streaking the
Gelationous protein to new drop as shown in
http://xray.bmc.uu.se/terese/tutorial3.html . Can you please share
your experience with us?

Thanks for your help.

Joseph Ho



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