I think superpose does not output CAs outwith a certain cut-off based
on the quality of the superimposition. It does try to match as many as
give reasonable RMSDs - but it is mainly focussed on the residues in
matching secondary elements as this is where it starts the
superimposition.

A simpler approach is to use LSQKAB which will report all CA RMSDs in
a file if you specify that you want DELTAS. But notice that as Gert
said this will probably give you a different kind of superimposition.
A workaround would be to restrict LSQKAB to the residue ranges
SUPERPOSE used - then it will produce the same superimposition but can
report DELTAS for _all_ residues (! phew).

A non-CCP4 approach is Chimera Multi-align Viewer which calculates
RMSD without doing any superimposition. So you could run it on your
SUPERPOSE output coordinate files. I recall RMSD is a 'header' in that
tool and can be output to a file.
https://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/multalignviewer/framemav.html
(You have to read your structures into Chimera before launching
Multi-align viewer).

hope that helps.
 Martyn

Martyn Symmons
Cambridge

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Anastassis Perrakis <a.perra...@nki.nl> wrote:
> Dear Wenhe,
>
> Besides this advice, have a look at the
> http://webapps.embl-hamburg.de/rapido/ server.
>
> Sometimes its goodo to re-think of what you want to do, and wonder why its
> not easily doable in software (perhaps because its not the right thing to do
> …)
>
> A.
>
>
> On 30 Oct 2016, at 11:45, Gert Vriend <gerrit.vri...@radboudumc.nl> wrote:
>
> Dear Wenhe,
>
> No 3D superpose tool will always align/map all Calphas. If in the one
> protein the loop turns left, and in the other it turns right, then mapping
> those loops is meaningless and thus not done by good software. The other
> problem is that often two proteins that get compared do not even have
> equally many residues so that there will always be some unaligned/unmapped
> Calphas left at the end. Look for some articles by Arthur M Lesk on this
> topic, he has explained protein superposition (problems) very clearly.
>
> Gert
>
> Ps, if you want proteins superposed and get different output from what the
> standard software gives you, just mail me those PDB files and I can see what
> I can do.
>
>
> On 29-10-2016 17:47, WENHE ZHONG wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I always use the SUPERPOSE tool in CCP4 to superpose molecules. This time I
> want to use the RMSD values of superposed C-alpha atoms to plot a RMSD graph
> (instead of using the graph automatically made by the program). However,
> there are many atoms missing in the RMSD list.
>
> In the settings I chose “Superpose specific atoms/residues”, checked “Output
> all distances to a file”, fit “C-alpha atoms”. The superposed structures
> have exactly the same sequence.
>
> My question is: is there any way to get the completed list of RMSD value for
> each C-alpha atom? Or is there any other program for this purpose?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Kind regards,
> Wenhe
>
>

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