Dear Felix,

I, too, do not use spaces and file names in Russian :) However, these things 
are coming nearly for free and automatic with today's development tools, so 
little effort, if any, is required to adopt them, while the benefits in terms 
of user friendliness and convenience are not exactly negligible. Many thanks 
for understanding our situation

-- Eugene

On 3 Jun 2014, at 12:58, Felix Frolow wrote:

Possibility to have file names with the spaces is a curse put on the community 
by Microsoft, and it will be a big mistake to introduce this to CCP4 (my 
opinion).
I guess there are much more important things new CCP4 GUI should deal with. If 
CCP4 GUI will start to go this way,
file names with spaces will become file names with spaces and multilingual, in 
some these languages writing is going in the different direction.
In my introduction to UNIX, I teach in the beginning of practical protein 
crystallography my first demand from student is to forget about spaces in the 
fie names and the life will be much easier.
No fix is needed for that, concentrate on more important problems :-)
Dr Felix Frolow
Professor of Structural Biology and Biotechnology, Department of Molecular 
Microbiology and Biotechnology
Tel Aviv University 69978, Israel

Acta Crystallographica F, co-editor

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On Jun 3, 2014, at 14:47 , Eugene Krissinel 
<eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:eugene.krissi...@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote:

I take this chance to to confirm once more, as publicly as possible, that file 
paths with spaces are discouraged in today's CCP4. This inconvenience 
originates from ancient times in computing when good half of CCP4 was written 
and when spaces were disallowed on file system nodes.

Please take a notice of this fact as CCP4 core still receives (albeit 
infrequent) bug reports, where surprising behaviour is due to using file paths 
with white spaces.

Fixing this has proved to be a hard problem, purely because of technical 
choices made quite a number of years ago. But good news are that this 
limitation will be removed in new CCP4 Gui under development.

Eugene

On 3 Jun 2014, at 08:23, Mark J van Raaij wrote:

This also occurred to me once where the file path had a space,(/Google Drive/), 
when I moved the file somewhere else it worked. I was using baverage from the 
CCP4i GUI.

Mark J van Raaij
Lab 20B
Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas
Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC
c/Darwin 3
E-28049 Madrid, Spain
tel. (+34) 91 585 4616
http://www.cnb.csic.es/~mjvanraaij





On 3 Jun 2014, at 09:20, Tim Gruene wrote:

Dear Bing,

can you post the exact command you were using, please? Also please check
with a different PDB file. In case you are using baverage from the
command line, can you make sure you are actually using the program from
ccp4 by typing 'which baverage' at the command prompt?

Regards.
Tim

On 06/02/2014 10:16 PM, Wang, Bing wrote:

Hi CCP4,

Recently when I input my pdb file and run the baverage in the ccp4 suit to 
check the temperature factor, it always tell me "No tables were fund in this 
file." Could you tell me how to fix this problem? Or is there another software 
instead of baverage I could use to check the temperature factor?

Thanks!

Bing


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Dr Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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