Dear William,
The lowest resolution spots you can see tell you something about your cell 
dimensions since the resolution cannot be lower than the longest distance in 
your unit cell. If you see spots at <30Å resolution, you are pretty sure you 
have protein crystals, if you only see spots at 10-15Å, you probably have 
crystals of something else.
However, it looks like you have big problems with freezing, there are strong 
ice/salt rings and the freezing may have done a lot of damage. I would 
recommend to take a few shots at room temperature as well to see the native 
diffraction. If the shots were at room temperature, you have a problem with 
salt crystallizing out, probable the moment you open the well and some solvent 
evaporates. In this case, I would try to find some suitable cryobuffer, which 
you could add to the drop the moment you open the well.
Finally, if you are sure your crystals are protein, you could grind some 
crystals and use them as seeds in a crystallization screen.
Good luck!
Herman



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Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] suggestion on improving sea urchin like crystals


Here is some information regarding to my crystals.

Crystallization condition:

·         0.9M-1.7M Ammonium Tartrate Dibasic

·         50mM-150mM Bis-Tris Propane (pH7.0 & 6.5) / 50mM-150mM Tris (pH7.5 & 
8.5)

Protein buffer contains 50mM ADA, pH6.5, 100mM NaCl, 10mM B-ME


Regards
William

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Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 01:50:18 +0100
From: williamlee0...@hotmail.com<mailto:williamlee0...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [ccp4bb] suggestion on improving sea urchin like crystals
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Dear All,

I am currently working on a ligand bound protein complex. From my initial 
crystallization screens I have identified a condition which gives me sea urchin 
like crystals. I managed to repeat these crystals in my optimization 
conditions, in fact I can see crystals in all the wells but there is no 
significant difference between them. All conditions give me similar size and 
amount of crystals. To confirm these are protein crystals or not, I tried 
expose the crystals to X-ray beam (in-house). Good news is that I have no 
obvious salt diffraction at high resolution, but the bad news is my low 
resolution diffractions are not really believable. In addition, these crystals 
seem to be quite easy to separate into needles but they are too small to tell 
if they do crack like most the protein crystals.

I have attached a picture of my crystals and the diffraction pattern I got at 
low resolution.

I am hoping if anyone can suggest me on how to improve or change the shape of 
these crystals if they are genuine protein crystals.


Many thanks

Kind regards
William

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