Hi Garib

I think that was the first thing we tried but it gave very poor geometry
for the ACE and also it's giving a VDW outlier for the ACE C - MET N bond.
So it looks like it's not recognising the link.

Cheers

-- Ian


On 14 February 2014 11:51, Garib Murshudov <ga...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Ian
>
> dod you try without link and standard ACE atom naming. Refmac should be
> able to deal N-terminal activation and few other things. At least it was
> the intention when it was written. Bugs may have been (self)introduced  to
> prevent this from happening. If it is so then I would like to know.
>
> Regards
> Garib
>
>
> On 13 Feb 2014, at 22:57, Ian Tickle <ianj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> All, I'm having problems refining a structure with an N-terminal
> acetylated MET residue.  I'm trying it with both Refmac & Buster.  Buster
> works fine & gives perfect planar geometry for the ACE-MET linkage.  Refmac
> gives a pyramidal acetyl group after refinement which to my eyes is wrong
> (sp2 C atom?).
>
> I have this line in my input PDB:
>
> LINKR        C   ACE A   0                 N   MET A   1
> ACE_C-N
>
> which as I understand it should solve the problem.  However, looking at
> the CIF entry for the ACE_C-N link I see restraints defined for bonds,
> angles & torsion angles but not for the CC(=O)N plane.  So the problem
> seems to be that the planar restraints for this link group are missing - or
> are they defined elsewhere?  Anyway I added planar restraints to the
> ACE_C-N link entry & it solves the problem, at least for regularisation - I
> still have the same problem with refinement.  Refmac in regularisation mode
> now gives the correct (planar) geometry for the ACE-MET linkage.  I'm just
> puzzled why no-one has noticed this, after all post-translational
> acetylation is surely not that uncommon (according to Wikipedia > 80% of
> human proteins are N-term acetylated!).
>
> Further, looking at the entry for ACE I see:
>
> ACE      ACE 'ACETYL GROUP                        ' non-polymer
> 7   3 .
>
>  ACE           O      O    O         0.000      0.000    0.000    0.000
>  ACE           C      C    C1        0.000     -1.044   -0.606    0.000
>  ACE           H      H    H         0.000     -1.978   -0.069    0.000
>  ACE           CH3    C    CH3       0.000     -1.041   -2.113    0.000
>  ACE           H3     H    H         0.000     -0.541   -2.464    0.865
>  ACE           H2     H    H         0.000     -2.038   -2.468    0.000
>  ACE           H1     H    H         0.000     -0.540   -2.464   -0.864
>
> Where did the extra H atom (3rd atom) come from?  Acetyl is CH3C=O: the
> extra H atom would make it acetaldehyde which of course has nothing
> whatsoever to do with acetylation!  Is this the reason for the lack of
> planar link restraints (though that wouldn't explain why the other link
> restraints are present)?
>
> Any insights appreciated!
>
> Cheers
>
> -- Ian
>
>
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