Hi Pascal,

this behavior doesn't surprise me.
We had crystals in FC12, and didn't get any phase transitions in any PEGs from 200 to 20.000, and with or w/o organic solvents such as MPD. And I can tell you we had a lot of detergent with the purified protein, concentrating on 50kDa. With lipids, the phase diagram is changed radically. Have you tried bicelles? you have specialists next door. The amount of crystal-like features is quite high. I would suggest the extensive use of a UV source to distinguish between "like" and real protein crystals.
good luck.
vincent


Le 8/2/13 12:23 AM, Pascal Egea a écrit :
Dear All,

I have a question tailored for the membrane protein and detergent folks. We are purifying a membrane protein that associates into an homoligomeric pore and we have been successfully preparing it in two detergents: FC-12 or a mild lipid. The two Protein Detergent Complexes look very homogenous by SEC and can be concentrated without protein loss on membranes with MW cutoffs (100kDal) way larger that the "expected" their respective free detergent micelles. Everything looks good so far... until we get to the crystallization stage. While the PDC in FC12 does not tend to form too much phase separation, the PDC in the lipid does. This looks a bit odd to me since these lipid micelles are supposed to be a bit smaller than the FC-12 micelles. We are working at twice the CMC and besides lowering the detergent concentration, I am a bit perplex about what I am observing. Intuitively I would have expected to observe the reverse behavior: worst in FC-12 than the lipid. This lipid is a very mild solubilizing/reconstituting agent that has already been successfully used for structure determination. Any advice or thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Is this something that some of you have already observed?

Many thanks in advance,

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