Hi Sebastiano,

Elspeth Garman howls bloody murder everytime someone says they "froze"
their crystals. I think her issue is with the description of the process of
successfully flashcooling crystals in the presence of cryoprotectants as
"freezing." Freezing technically is understood to imply the formation of
hexagonal ice while what one really means is the successful solidification
of water in a random orientation (vitrification) and the prevention of the
hexagonal ice.

Semantics semantics!

I'd stick with flashcooled or something along those lines.
Raji



On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Sebastiano Pasqualato <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi folks,
> I have recently received a comment on a paper, in which referee #1
> (excellent referee, btw!) commented like this:
>
> "crystals were vitrified rather than frozen."
>
> These were crystals grew in ca. 2.5 M sodium malonate, directly dip in
> liquid nitrogen prior to data collection at 100 K.
> We stated in the methods section that crystals were "frozen in liquid
> nitrogen", as I always did.
>
> After a little googling it looks like I've always been wrong, and what we
> are always doing is doing is actually vitrifying the crystals.
> Should I always use this statement, from now on, or are
> there english/physics subtleties that I'm not grasping?
>
> Thanks a lot,
> ciao,
> s
>
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Raji Edayathumangalam
Instructor in Neurology, Harvard Medical School
Research Associate, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Visiting Research Scholar, Brandeis University

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