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Dear SDY,

if you can see extra density after MR into which you can even build or
correct the model it is a good sign your chose the correct space group.

Check the geometry of your model. I suppose it is very distorted - a
matrix weight of 0.03 sounds high for 3.4A data - You can go down by a
factor of 10 at least. You may need to run refmac for many cycles - I
have used 200-300 cycles with weight matrix 0.001 and the LL would
still not converge.

Regards,
Tim

On 11/04/2012 04:03 PM, SD Y wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I have few basic questions for which I need help. I have a 3.4 A
> data and I have processed it to P4.
> 
> 1. I used pointless to find SG, it suggests P41 21 2. But I see two
> strong intensities in systematic absences
> 
> Intensities of systematic absences
> 
> 
> h   k   l Intensity     Sigma   I/Sigma
> 
> 
> 
> 0   0 2      -0.7       0.3 -2.0
> 
> 0   0 3       1.0       0.4 2.3
> 
> 0   0 5       0.3       0.7 0.4
> 
> 0   0 6      -0.7       0.9 -0.8
> 
> 0   0 7      -0.4       0.9 -0.4
> 
> 0   0 9      -0.2       0.9 -0.2
> 
> 0   0 10       1.3       1.2 1.1
> 
> 0   0 11      -0.8       2.1 -0.4
> 
> 0   0 13       1.2       2.1 0.6
> 
> 0   0 14       2.3       1.8 1.3
> 
> 0   0 15      -1.0       1.9 -0.5
> 
> 0   0 17       2.4       2.0 1.2
> 
> 0 0  18      21.1 4.5       4.7
> 
> 0 0  19      90.2 6.0      15.0
> 
> 3   0 0      -0.1       0.2 -0.8
> 
> 5   0 0       0.2       0.2 0.9
> 
> 7   0 0      -0.3       0.2 -1.3
> 
> 9   0 0       0.0       0.5 0.0
> 
> 11   0 0      -0.2       0.6 -0.4
> 
> 13   0 0       0.8       0.7 1.1
> 
> 15   0 0      -1.2       0.6 -1.9
> 
> 17   0 0      -0.3       0.8 -0.4
> 
> 19   0 0      -1.4       0.6 -2.6
> 
> 21   0 0      -2.2       1.2 -1.9
> 
> 23   0   0 -0.8       1.3      -0.6
> 
> 25   0 0      -1.2       1.1 -1.1
> 
> 27   0 0      -0.9       1.6 -0.5
> 
> 29   0 0      -0.4       1.7 -0.2
> 
> 31   0 0      -7.1       1.3 -5.3
> 
> 33   0 0      -2.4       2.1 -1.1
> 
> 2. When I used phaser  for MR, it gave weak solution in p43, so I 
> scaled data in p43 21 2 (this also two intesities high like above
> in systamatic absences) and used for Phaser to get the following
> solution
> 
> SINGLE solution
> 
> 
> 
> SOLU SET RFZ=4.5 TFZ=9.4 PAK=0 LLG=105 TFZ==10.1 RF++ TFZ=17.7
> PAK=0 LLG=282  TFZ==15.6 LLG=285 TFZ==12.4
> 
> SOLU SPAC P 43 21 2
> 
> SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER 153.1 50.3 73.2 FRAC -0.11 0.03
> -0.94 BFAC -2.65
> 
> SOLU 6DIM ENSE ensemble1 EULER 148.4 129.9 252.8 FRAC -0.32 -0.35
> 1.07 BFAC 4.01
> 
> Ensemble ensemble1 RMS variance(s): 1.13
> 
> 3.      I used this solution to further refine the model in refmac,
> using local ncs, with/without jelly, optimized weight/weight of
> 0.03, map sharpening with B=20 in several rounds.
> 
> 
> 
> I noticed that R factor R factor stayed around 33% while R free
> keeps floating around 42%. I could see some density for missing
> loop in the model and I could build but the R work and R free
> moving apart. By reading, I understand that this is very common for
> low resolution data unless I use appropriate restraints.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I am wondering if my space group is correct? I had understood that
> if it’s right SG, high intensity reflections will not be found in
> systematic absences but I started doubting if I have understood
> correctly.
> 
> 
> 
> This is my first low resolution data, I want use this opportunity
> to learn refmac well. So could you please let me know if my doubt
> is right regarding SG and  how do I troubleshoot.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> SDY

- -- 
Dr Tim Gruene
Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
Tammannstr. 4
D-37077 Goettingen

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