And Jan Hendrik Schon did his faking at the Bell labs, which (according to wikipedia - I have to avoid accusations of plagiarism here) "are credited with the development of radio astronomy <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_astronomy>, the transistor <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transistor>, the laser <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser>, information theory <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_theory>, the UNIX <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX> operating system <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system>, the C programming language <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_%28programming_language%29> and the C++ programming language <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B>. Seven Nobel Prizes have been awarded for work completed at Bell Laboratories." So, unless you happen to have very specific knowledge about the place that can substantiate your claim, you cannot make this kind of generalizations.

Remy Loris
Vrije Universiteit Brussel and VIB

On 29/10/12 20:38, Narayan Viswam wrote:
Sham is very right about the institute.

Narayana Sthanam's illustrious former colleague Krishna Murthy who faked so many structures & retracted quite a few papers was an alumnus of the institute.


On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:21 PM, James Stroud <xtald...@gmail.com <mailto:xtald...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    The agism in the advertisement doesn't do the institute much
    credit. I'm inclined to believe Sham, given the Institutes stated
    policies:

    "Applicants, preferably below 35 years"

    James



    On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Narayana VL Sthanam wrote:

    Sham, who so ever you are, if you have such a long list of
    complaints, why don’t you put your name clearly and complain
    openly, instead of hiding behind
    some anonymous ‘SHAM’ name. What you write about IISc  may be all
    true or it may be reflection of your frustration for not getting
    a job at IISc!
    How do we know? So, grow a ‘spine’, if you have a complaint, say
    it like a man and do not hide behind and bad mouth others
    anonymously like spoiled child.
    You are not only throwing dirt on such a prestigious Indian
    institution,  and also on many decent and capable scientists who
    do outstanding work and produce brilliant graduate students, some
    of which I was fortunate to have in my lab.
    Best
    Narayana Sthanam
    *------------------------------------------*
    *Narayana Sthanam,Ph D*
    *Professor of Structural Biology*
    *244 CBSE 1025 18th Street South*
    *Center for Biophysical Sciences and Engineering*
    *University of Alabama at Birmingham*
    *Birmingham, Al 35294*
    *Phone: 205 934 0119 <tel:205%20934%200119>*
    *URL: **http://www.opt.uab.edu/narayanalab*
    
<https://mail.ad.uab.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=80a7a9ef03ea46b58d648b78f13d4272&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.opt.uab.edu%2fnarayanalab>
                 “Never let success go to your head, nor failure to
    your heart”
    *From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
    <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>] *On Behalf Of *U US
    *Sent:* Monday, October 29, 2012 12:03 PM
    *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
    *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Faculty positions at Molecular Biophysics
    Unit, IISc, Bangalore
    Dear Friends,
    There is no need to apply to this position, we suggest. It is a
    PREDETERMINED SELECTION, i.e. candidate is fixed and this
    (advertisement, screening, selection board, selection and
    approval) is just the procedure.
    It does not matter whether you apply or not. If you apply and
    called for interview, then you have to waste your valuable time
    as well as huge travel money unless some Big Boss is fixing you
    to the post.
    Interestingly Indian Institute of Science recruits and carries
    faculties and trains them in such a way that it has become a
    epicentre of recruitment scams across India and it make rest of
    Indian Scientists/Faculties in their path of scams and CRIME.
    Students also inherit the character of their boss. They do not
    participate in any form of fair selection in the country. Almost
    all cases they select and load many times inferior candidates
    even though candidate was not seen by anybody or interviewed.
    Similarly they distribute various national awards among
    themselves and within their group. THEY ARE NOT ASHAMED AT ALL.
    This is just an attempt of WASTING HUGE PUBLIC MONEY by a bunch
    of crooks who are good for nothing but worst for everything.
    Sham
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:47:06 +0530
    From: vikasnavra...@gmail.com <mailto:vikasnavra...@gmail.com>
    Subject: [ccp4bb] Faculty positions at Molecular Biophysics Unit,
    IISc, Bangalore
    To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>

    Dear all

    Kindly make a note.

    Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore.
Molecular Biophysics Unit (http://mbu.iisc.ernet.in/) Opening for Assistant Professor Positions. Applicants, preferably below 35 years, should have a Ph.D. with postdoctoral
    experience with an excellent publication record.
We seek candidates in the general area of structural biology with an emphasis on
    understanding macromolecular systems at the molecular level.
Applications with a detailed CV, research plan (not exceeding 3 pages) and names
    of at least 4 referees should be sent tochair...@mbu.iisc.ernet.in  
<mailto:chair...@mbu.iisc.ernet.in>


    Best



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