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Dear James et al.,

so to summarise, the answer to Niu's question is that he must add a
factor of e^(-Bs^2) to the formula of Cromer/Mann and then adjust the
value of B until it matches the inset. Given that you claim
rho=0.025e/A^3 (I assume for 1/dmax approx. 0) for B=12 and the inset
shows a value of about 0.6, a somewhat higher B-value should work.

Cheers,
Tim

On 09/17/2012 08:32 AM, James Holton wrote:
> Yes, the constant term in the "5-Gaussian" structure factor tables does
> become annoying when you try to plot electron density in real space, but
> only if you try to make the B factor zero.  If the B factors are ~12
> (like they are in 1m1n), then the electron density 2.0 A from an Fe atom
> is not -0.2 e-/A^3, it is 0.025 e-/A^3. This is only 1% of the electron
> density at the center of a nitrogen atom with the same B factor.
> 
> But if you do set the B factor to zero, then the electron density at the
> center of any atom (using the 5-Gaussian model) is infinity.  To put it
> in gnuplot-ish, the structure factor of Fe (in reciprocal space) can be
> plotted with this function:
> Fe_sf(s)=Fe_a1*exp(-Fe_b1*s*s)+Fe_a2*exp(-Fe_b2*s*s)+Fe_a3*exp(-Fe_b3*s*s)+Fe_a4*exp(-Fe_b4*s*s)+Fe_c
> 
> 
> where:
> Fe_c = 1.036900;
> Fe_a1 = 11.769500; Fe_a2 = 7.357300; Fe_a3 = 3.522200; Fe_a4 = 2.304500;
> Fe_b1 = 4.761100; Fe_b2 = 0.307200; Fe_b3 = 15.353500; Fe_b4 = 76.880501;
> and "s" is sin(theta)/lambda
> 
> applying a B factor is then just multiplication by exp(-B*s*s)
> 
> 
> Since the terms are all Gaussians, the inverse Fourier transform can
> actually be done analytically, giving the real-space version, or the
> expression for electron density vs distance from the nucleus (r):
> 
> Fe_ff(r,B) = \
>   +Fe_a1*(4*pi/(Fe_b1+B))**1.5*safexp(-4*pi**2/(Fe_b1+B)*r*r) \
>   +Fe_a2*(4*pi/(Fe_b2+B))**1.5*safexp(-4*pi**2/(Fe_b2+B)*r*r) \
>   +Fe_a3*(4*pi/(Fe_b3+B))**1.5*safexp(-4*pi**2/(Fe_b3+B)*r*r) \
>   +Fe_a4*(4*pi/(Fe_b4+B))**1.5*safexp(-4*pi**2/(Fe_b4+B)*r*r) \
>   +Fe_c *(4*pi/(B))**1.5*safexp(-4*pi**2/(B)*r*r);
> 
> Where here applying a B factor requires folding it into each Gaussian
> term.  Notice how the Fe_c term blows up as B->0? This is where most of
> the series-termination effects come from. If you want the above
> equations for other atoms, you can get them from here:
> http://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/pickup/all_atomsf.gnuplot
> http://bl831.als.lbl.gov/~jamesh/pickup/all_atomff.gnuplot
> 
> This "infinitely sharp spike problem" seems to have led some people to
> conclude that a zero B factor is non-physical, but nothing could be
> further from the truth!  The scattering from mono-atomic gasses is an
> excellent example of how one can observe the B=0 structure factor.   In
> fact, gas scattering is how the quantum mechanical self-consistent field
> calculations of electron clouds around atoms was experimentally
> verified.  Does this mean that there really is an infinitely sharp
> "spike" in the middle of every atom?  Of course not.  But there is a
> "very" sharp spike.
> 
> So, the problem of "infinite density" at the nucleus is really just an
> artifact of the 5-Gaussian formalism.  Strictly speaking, the
> "5-Gaussian" structure factor representation you find in
> ${CLIBD}/atomsf.lib (or Table 6.1.1.4 in the International Tables volume
> C) is nothing more than a curve fit to the "true" values listed in ITC
> volume C tables 6.1.1.1 (neutral atoms) and 6.1.1.3 (ions).  These
> latter tables are the Fourier transform of the "true" electron density
> distribution around a particular atom/ion obtained from quantum
> mechanical self-consistent field calculations (like those of Cromer,
> Mann and many others).
> 
> The important thing to realize is that the fit was done in _reciprocal_
> space, and if you look carefully at tables 6.1.1.1 and 6.1.1.3, you can
> see that even at REALLY high angle (sin(theta)/lambda = 6, or 0.083 A
> resolution) there is still significant elastic scattering from the
> heavier atoms.  The purpose of the "constant term" in the 5-Gaussian
> representation is to try and capture this high-angle "tail", and for the
> really heavy atoms this can be more than 5 electron equivalents.  In
> real space, this is equivalent to saying that about 5 electrons are
> located within at least ~0.03 A of the nucleus.  That's a very short
> distance, but it is also not zero.  This is because the first few shells
> of electrons around things like a Uranium nucleus actually are very
> small and dense.  How, then, can we have any hope of modelling heavy
> atoms properly without using a map grid sampling of 0.01A ?  Easy!  The
> B factors are never zero.
> 
> Even for a truly infinitely sharp peak (aka a single electron), it
> doesn't take much of a B factor to spread it out to a reasonable size. 
> For example, applying a B factor of 9 to a point charge will give it a
> full-width-half max (FWHM) of 0.8 A, the same as the "diameter" of a
> carbon atom.  A carbon atom with B=12 has FWHM = 1.1 A, the same as a
> "point" charge with B=16.  Carbon at B=80 and a point with B=93 both
> have FWHM = 2.6 A.  As the B factor becomes larger and larger, it tends
> to dominate the atomic shape (looks like a single Gaussian).  This is
> why it is so hard to assign atom types from density alone.  In fact,
> with B=80, a Uranium atom at 1/100th occupancy is essentially
> indistinguishable from a hydrogen atom. That is, even a modest B factor
> pretty much "washes out" any sharp features the atoms might have. 
> Sometimes I wonder why we bother with "form factors" at all, since at
> modest resolutions all we really need is Z (the atomic number) and the B
> factor.  But, then again, I suppose it doesn't hurt either.
> 
> 
> So, what does this have to do with series termination?  Series
> termination arises in the inverse Fourier transform (making a map from
> structure factors).  Technically, the "tails" of a Gaussian never reach
> zero, so any sort of "resolution cutoff" always introduces some error
> into the electron density calculation.  That is, if you create an
> arbitrary electron-density map, convert it into structure factors and
> then "fft" it back, you do _not_ get the same map that you started
> with!  How much do they differ? Depends on the RMS value of the
> high-angle structure factors that have been cut off (Parseval's
> theorem).  The "infinitely sharp spike" problem exacerbates this,
> because the B=0 structure factors do not tend toward zero as fast as a
> Gaussian with the "atomic width" would.
> 
> So, for a given resolution, when does the B factor get "too sharp"? 
> Well, for "protein" atoms, the following B factors will introduce an rms
> error in the electron density map equal to about 5% of the peak height
> of the atoms when the data are cut to the following resolution:
> d     B
> 1.0 <5
> 1.5 8
> 2.0 27
> 2.5 45
> 3.0 65
> 3.5 86
> 4.0 >99
> 
> smaller B factors than this will introduce more than 5% error at each of
> these resolutions.  Now, of course, one is often not nearly as concerned
> with the average error in the map as you are with the error at a
> particular point of interest, but the above numbers can serve as a rough
> guide.  If you want to see the series-termination error at a particular
> point in the map, you will have to calculate the "true" map of your
> model (using a program like SFALL), and then run the map back and forth
> through the Fourier transform and resolution cutoff (such as with SFALL
> and FFT).  You can then use MAPMAN or Chimera to probe the electron
> density at the point of interest.
> 
> But, to answer the OP's question, I would not recommend trying to do
> fancy map interpretation to identify a mystery atom.  Instead, just
> refine the occupancy of the mystery atom and see where that goes. 
> Perhaps jiggling the rest of the molecule with "kick maps" to see how
> stable the occupancy is.  Since refinement only does forward-FFTs, it is
> formally insensitive to series termination errors.  It is only map
> calculation where series termination can become a problem.
> 
> Thanks to Garib for clearing up that last point for me!
> 
> -James Holton
> MAD Scientist
> 
> 
> On 9/15/2012 3:12 AM, Tim Gruene wrote:
> Dear Ian,
> 
> provided that f(s) is given by the formula in the Cromer/Mann article,
> which I believe we have agreed on, the inset of Fig.1 of the Science
> article we are talking about is claimed to be the graph of the
> function g, which I added as pdf to this email for better readability.
> 
> Irrespective of what has been plotted in any other article meantioned
> throughout this thread, this claim is incorrect, given a_i, b_i, c > 0.
> 
> I am sure you can figure this out yourself. My argument was not
> involving mathematical programs but only one-dimensional calculus.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tim
> 
> On 09/14/2012 04:46 PM, Ian Tickle wrote:
>>>> On 14 September 2012 15:15, Tim Gruene <t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Hello Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> your article describes f(s) as sum of four Gaussians, which is
>>>>> not the same f(s) from Cromer's and Mann's paper and the one used
>>>>> both by Niu and me. Here, f(s) contains a constant, as I pointed
>>>>> out to in my response, which makes the integral oscillate between
>>>>> plus and minus infinity as the upper integral border (called
>>>>> 1/dmax in the article Niu refers to) goes to infinity).
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you can shed some light on why your article uses a
>>>>> different f(s) than Cromer/Mann. This explanation might be the
>>>>> answer to Nius question, I reckon, and feed my curiosity, too.
>>>> Tim & Niu, oops yes a small slip in the paper there, it should
>>>> have read "4 Gaussians + constant term": this is clear from the
>>>> ITC reference given and the $CLIBD/atomsf.lib table referred to.
>>>> In practice it's actually rendered as a sum of 5 Gaussians after
>>>> you multiply the f(s) and atomic Biso factor terms, so unless Biso
>>>> = 0 (very unphysical!) there is actually no constant term.  My
>>>> integral for rho(r) certainly doesn't oscillate between plus and
>>>> minus infinity as d_min -> zero.  If yours does then I suspect that
>>>> either the Biso term was forgotten or if not then a bug in the
>>>> integration routine (e.g. can it handle properly the point at r = 0
>>>> where the standard formula for the density gives 0/0?).  I used
>>>> QUADPACK
>>>> (http://people.sc.fsu.edu/~jburkardt/f_src/quadpack/quadpack.html)
>>>> which seems pretty good at taking care of such singularities
>>>> (assuming of course that the integral does actually converge).
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> -- Ian
>>>>
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