Can you check space group in your mtz and pdb? I have seen this happening when 
they disagree.
It is annoying and I would like it to be sorted out. If you want you can send 
your data and I can try to sort it out.


Garib

On 18 Jul 2012, at 17:50, Deepthi wrote:

> I tried opening the model with other spacegroups MTZ file. The map doesn't 
> fit well for other spacegroups. The initial model was refined using Phenix 
> Autobuild software. I tried MR with every spacegroup possible in primitive 
> hexagonal. Only p3221 worked. There is no twinning in the crystal. I will try 
> using other softwares for refinement but this is annoying. I also tried 
> mutating the  model to poly alanines and refine but this made it worse. The 
> R-free went up to 0.546. 
> I initially thought it might be a space group problem but trying other space 
> groups doesn't work either.
> 
> Thank youvery much  for the help
> Deepthi 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Vellieux Frederic <frederic.velli...@ibs.fr> 
> wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Not much information provided. How was the initial model refined ? Phenix ? 
> It could be a problem with the Refmac refinement protocol (difficult to say 
> with so little information) if you switched from Phenix to Refmac.
> 
> How certain are you 1 - of the space group; 2 - that the crystal wasn't 
> twinned ? You can have both and it can be "annoying".
> 
> Further, at this resolution I think you could use one of the SHELXes (forgot 
> the terminology) for refinement, that could be more appropriate.
> 
> F.V.
> 
> 
> Deepthi wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I am working with a small mutant protein which is 56 amino acids long. The 
> crystal diffracted at 1.4A0 and the space group is  p3221. I did molecular 
> replacement using Phenix software with all the data (1.4A0) and got a 
> solution. Phenix did auto building with waters and R-free was 0.3123.
> 
> I mutated some residues which don't align with the model protein  to 
> Alanines. When i change the residues back to their respective side chains 
> Refmac5 won't  refine it well. The maps looks clear( you can guess its 1.4A0 
> data) but R-free is shooting up to 0.41. It is not accepting any changes to 
> the Phenix generated model. I have no idea what is going on. Can anyone help 
> me?
> 
> Thank You in advance
> Deepthi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Deepthi

Dr Garib N Murshudov
Group Leader, MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology
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Cambridge 
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