Hi Frank, if you really want to personally take the dewar with you, here
are my 2 cts (it is from a few years back, we send the dewars now by
fedex):

Just tossing the dewar on the check-in belt is not a good idea. It is a
roulette with ever increasing odds that the dewar will not enter the
plane and only after a lot of negotiations and some luck will arrive
with the next flight (it happened to me).

Since you are a single person and the airport security/airlines are big
bureaucratic entities, you have no choice but to use bureaucracy as well
to get through. Here is the SOP my colleagues had put in place and which
works:

1) call airport security a few days ahead explaining what you want to
do. If you found the right person, send him a fax/email, preferably as
officially-looking as possible (minimum letterhead of your institution)
that you will bring a cryogenic case, which is non-toxic, non-flammable
no bio-hazard etc. and not dangerous, not restricted, as per IATA
special provision A152. Ask them to confirm your fax/email in writing.

2) put copies of your letter (on institution letterhead), of the
response of the airport security, a copy of the IATA special provision
A152 and some instructions that although the dewar is not dangerous, one
should not touch the inside for risk of cold burns, inside the dewar so
they find it when they decide to open it.

3) take the same copies with you and go well-ahead in time to the
airport, so you have at least one hour to get the dewar through. Here
Murphies law applies: if you have enough time, everything goes quickly
and you have to hang around, if you have little time, you will not get
through in time. Show all your documents to the security officer, take
his or hers concerns very seriously, welcome it if the person decides to
call a supervisor and explain that the very important experiments inside
the dewar will lead to a huge benefit to makind.

4) For the US, you probable need some more official documents stating
that there are no agricultural products etc. inside the dewar. Here I
would contact the US customs or consult some websites.

Good luck!
Herman

PS: in your case, I would consider sending them by fedex



-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of
Frank von Delft
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:04 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Checking in dry shippers?

Hi, thanks for all responses.  Most people suggested avoiding the
scenario altogether, which was cute but not the question.

Answers below the original question:

On 17/04/2012 15:59, Frank von Delft wrote:
> Hi, what's the latest on flying with dry shippers?
>
> Until about 2009, I used to fly with dry shippers all the time:  I 
> just tossed them (dry!) on the check-in belt, and the airlines didn't 
> mind.  But that was only London-Zurich, using BA or SwissAir.
>
> Anybody know if this still works, especially flying to the US?  Or 
> have the securocrats now secured total victory?  Any airlines / 
> airports to avoid?
>
> phx.


Harry:
for a trouble free journey with your dry shipper, I'd say avoid any
airlines that are flying to the States, and avoid any airports in the
States....

Herb:
We ship by FedEx ahead of time rather than try to bring on commercial
passenger flight.
It may be possible to do so but it's just not worth the hassle of
running into an unexpected problem.

Liz:
For what its worth I always use a courier because i didnt think you
could fly with them as luggage. THats between here and Berlin.

Marko:
no idea about flying to US, but Easyjet has been ok still to Lyon etc. 
We have designated contact at the airline, she approves the dewar,
although the final decision is with guy in the uniform (pilot). 
Stanstead is ok as well, we simply call the security at airport, they as
for a form by fax and ask to speak to supervisor when going through
security. Doubt they let the dewar inside though, and hence the latter
deal with airport security - I carry the dewar to the plane myself, so
it is upright at least until it leaves the plane at the other end.

Kris:
If you are returning and the dewar has no samples, it is just a box.  It
will get X-rayed and forwarded to the cargo area.  I generally keep it
closed with zip ties so that no one can place anything in it without my
permission.  Also, remove all hazardous, flamable, or cryogenic
stickers.

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