Hi -

Here at the NKI, we had formed a committee to look at ELN solution two years ago.
We had interviewed three vendors, and run two tests with twenty users.

A brief description of the outcome:

1. None of the twenty test-users was satisfied with any of the two solutions - and each was annoyed for a different reason. 2. If that would work at all, better be prepared to dedicate one person for technical support (unless security considerations allow you to have cloud-based usage or remote hosting) and another person for scientific support (making templates for experiments - else in a year you would have 37 templates for how to run a gel filtration column).

I would add, that for the whole thing to work at all you need an IT department that are really good and collaborative,
and especially for cloud-based solutions you need a fast network.

My personal conclusion - and not that of the NKI which continues to be dedicated to implementing an ELN solution may I clarify - was that I have wasted enough time, and I quit from the committee before Christmas.

And, with no offense as well to my friends in the PiMS project, besides spending time and resources on that between 2004-2008, I also do not think that this is a solution for small lab like mine - admittedly it works well for bigger and better organized labs.

Sorry for the negative vibes.

A.


On Jan 16, 2012, at 22:28, Seiji Sugiman-Marangos wrote:

Hi, off-topic question regarding electronic laboratory notebooks. Our
lab is planning on moving from paper to digital record keeping and I
was wondering which of the available ELN platforms are being used by
the ccp4 community.

We are primarily a crystallography lab but we would also need some
versatility in the platform as some of our lab members are more focused
on biochemistry.

Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Seiji

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