Hi,

Thank you for your suggestion.
Could you tell me what is "riding hydrogens"?
And it seems there is not "reference model" function in refmac5.6?



2011/7/9 Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>

> Dear Qixu,
>
>
>
> refamac 5.6 works well at these resolutions. You can add commands to your
> refinement in CCP4i by using the 'Run and view command script' (or something
> like that) option and just typing in the extra commands. Jelly-body has
> worked very well for me (although I use tigheter restraints than the
> default). Also local NCS works well (provided you have NCS). I never used
> reference structures, but I heared good things about it. Don't forget to use
> riding hydrogens, for some reason it is not the deafault.
>  Perhaps you should also switch of the automatic X-ray weighting in favour
> of optimizing the matrix weight yourself (start with 0.05 and compare
> refinements for higher and lower values).
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Robbie
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:59:29 +0800
> > From: caiq...@gmail.com
> > Subject: [ccp4bb] low resolution refinement
> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>  >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Recently, I refine two low resolution structures in refmac 5.5. Their
> > resolutions are 3A and 3.5A respectively.
> > For 3A structure, after MR by phaser and rigidbody refinement&restraint
> > refinement by refmac5.5, I got R factor 25% and R free 35%. And then
> > each time, after my model building in coot and restraint refinement by
> > refmac 5.5, the R factor stays 25%, but R free increases to 38%, even
> 39%.
> > For 3.5A structure, the R factor stays 27%, but R free increases from
> > 37% to 42% after my slightly model building in coot.
> > Could you help me to find the reason?
> >
> > Maybe the reason is the overfit of the structure? I found that new
> > version of refmac 5.6 has many new features for low resolution
> > refinement, such as jelly boy, secondary structure restraints. But I
> > don't know how to use these new features in old version ccp4i (6.1.13)?
> >
> > I also used phenix.refine with the "reference model" ( I have high
> > resolution model for one domain of the low resolution protein) and
> > "secondary structure restraints", but it seams the same. Any suggestion?
> >
> > BTW, is that simulator annealing not suitable for low resolution
> > structure? I used the simulator annealing method of CNS and
> > phenix.refine, but the geometry of the structure is always destroyed
> > seriously.
> >
> > Could you help me?
> >
> > Thank you very much!
>

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