On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:18 PM, James M Holton <jmhol...@lbl.gov> wrote:

> The CCP4 program that makes the "label map" you are looking for is SFALL.
> It can be told to make a .map file where each grid point is still a
> floating-point number, but instead of the usual electron density it
> "encodes" the residue number, atom number, etc. The OVERLAPMAP program knows
> how to decode this, and you specify it as a third map, in addition to the
> two you want to correlate.
>
> However, the distance from the center of each atom that is still "part of
> it" is an interesting question. I think the default is 2.5 A or so, but this
> depends on the B factor, and probably grid points far from the center of an
> atom "should" count less than ones near the middle?
>

Yes it makes sense that the weighting function for the integration would
look like a spherical (or ellipsoidal) gaussian with a variance equal to the
sum of the atomic MSD and form factor.


>
>  If what you really want is the number of electrons in a region, then I
> would recommend occupancy refinement (which you can now do in REFMAC), and
> then adding up occ*Z for the atoms of interest (where Z is the atomic
> number).  This has the nice property of being independent of F000 estimates.
>

The tricky part here is that I'd like to do this for density that is
poorly-modeled by a single atom.  An appropriate model might be a sum over
~10 different atomic positions each with its own B-factor and occupancy, but
good luck getting someone to believe you.  Since all I'm really interested
in is "how much stuff" is there, I don't need to actually convince anyone
that my occupancy/B-factor refinement is justified.

F000 is going to make this whole thing suspect anyway.  What I really want
is an END map.  Have you got code somewhere?  I wasn't planning on sleeping
tonight anyway...


>
> -James Holton
> MAD Scientist
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Matt Warkentin <mattw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I'm trying to 'measure' the density in a region of my structure by
> integrating the electron density there (notwithstanding errors in F000).  I
> understand that both overlapmap and phenix.real_space_correlation compute
> density surrounding individual atoms for their calculations.  Is there any
> way to get that info out of either of them?
> >
> > Are the per-residue "Fo" and "Fc" columns in the output of
> phenix.real_space_correlation actually what I am looking for?  If so what
> are the units and how is F000 handled?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch to anyone who can clear this up.
> >
> > Matt
>

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