Paul will have to answer re 20 NCS operators in coot..

But you dont need to generate the operators yourself.

If you have a master coordinate set with all 20 copies you can use coot to build one into the average map, then generate all the others by asking to match chain A to B, A to C etc.. within coot.
Dont forget tpo relabel the chains after shifting the rebuilt one!
  Eleanor



Vellieux Frederic wrote:
Simon Kolstoe wrote:

Hi,

I have 20 identical monomers in my asu of a 2.5A structure. We have previously model built all twenty monomers and used strict NCS in the refinement, however I would like to compare this with the maps generated by building one monomer into an averaged map and then replicating it nineteen times for the refinement. On a previous structure with just two monomers I did this to good effect using coot to make my average map and then pymol to replicate the second monomer, however with twenty monomers things are a bit more complicated. So:

1. Can the map averaging function in coot cope with averaging across twenty monomers or is there another better program to use?

2. What program can I use to generate the nineteen NCS symmetry operators and then apply them to the monomer I am building? I’m guessing I’ll need a script to do this - is there a webpage/tutorial that explains how to do what I imagine must be a fairly common procedure?

Thanks,

Simon

Hi Simon,

NCS symmetry operators:

It all depends on the averaging program you want to use. For dm, I've used superpose (in ccp4i). For DEMON/ANGEL, I use the program SUPPOS (provides matrices and vectors in the correct format).

Fred.

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