Hi,

I'll take the liberty of replying instead of Elad (my student) who probably 
won't be back on the net till next week.

The feature/problem he reported seems most likely as a difference between the 
linux and Windows version, unless there is also a difference between v 6.1.1  
and 6.1.2 on that issue. Here is what we've done: 

1) Elad sent a pdb file with Biso to the TLSMD server. This file included water 
molecules but we assumed those would be ignored (as has usually been the case, 
as far as I recall). With the tlsin from TSLMD and the pdb he sent, he ran TLS 
refinement in refmac, after which  pdb with B-aniso for the protein and waters, 
but not for coafactors, was produced. He chopped the water with B-aniso and put 
water with Biso (from the previous cycle) , ran refmac with mixed iso/anison 
option and got back Baniso for the waters (unlike what's described in the 
refmac doc  for this option. This was all done with the Windows version (ccp4 
v6.1.2). 

2)  I repeated the same exercise (apart from re-sending coords. to TLSMD, that 
is I used the same tlsin file that was used under Windows) under linux (ccp4 v. 
6.1.1) and got the pdb file with Biso, as it should be (and as I reccall refmac 
to function in all my previous runs). The refmac version in both cases is 
5.5.102.

 So ???

 Cheers,

            Boaz

----- Original Message -----
From: Martyn Winn <martyn.w...@stfc.ac.uk>
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009 19:04
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] anisotropic temp for H2O
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

> In the latest versions of refmac, it has a default selection of TLS
> groups so that you don't need to create a TLSIN file. I believe this
> default selection includes waters in the first hydration shell. You
> should be able to override this with an explicit selection in TLSIN.
> 
> Cheers
> Martyn
> 
> On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 09:37 -0700, Ethan Merritt wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 August 2009, Elad Binshtien wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > > I run refmac5 on TLS & restrained refinement mode. my pdb 
> input file contain anisotropic temp for the amino acid and 
> isotropic temp for the cofactors and water. The refinement 
> parameters is set on mixed isotropic/ anisotropic temp and in 
> TLS parameters the check box add TLS contribution is marked. 
> > 
> > But in your definition of TLS groups  (the *.tls input file)
> > do you list the water residues as belonging to one of the TLS 
> groups?> If so, don't do that.
> > 
> >     Ethan
> > 
> > 
> > > In the pdb output the cofactor stay with isotropic temp BUT 
> the water get anisotropic temp.
> > > How can i leave the water with the isotropic tepm
> > > (i work on win version) 
> > > 
> > > thanks Elad
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Elad Binshtein
> > > Ph.D student 
> > > Department of Life Science 
> > > Ben Gurion University of the Negev
> > > Ph: 972-8-6461325‎
> > > 
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Boaz Shaanan, Ph.D.
Dept. of Life Sciences
Ben-Gurion University of the Negev
Beer-Sheva 84105
Israel
Phone: 972-8-647-2220 ; Fax: 646-1710
Skype: boaz.shaanan‎

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