Suggestions so far have been good ones. However, the MiTeGen microtools kit:
http://mitegen.com/products/microtools/microtools_kit1.shtml
comes with a "MicroSaw", which is a 10-micron thick kapton saw that is 
intended for this purpose. That is, you don't pry the crystal off the 
surface, but rather rest this saw against the surface, bring it over to 
the edge of the stuck crystal and then work it back and forth until you 
have cut underneath the crystal. Did you try this tool?
-James Holton
MAD Scientist


Savvas Savvides wrote:
Dear colleagues,

we have been growing crystals of a protein complex in sitting-drop geometry that stick to the bottom of the drop remarkably well. It’s as if they are glued onto the plastic. This makes crystal handling next to impossible without destroying the crystals. We have tried whiskers, loops, all kinds of micro-tools, and pipetting techniques to no avail. I can say at the outset that we have been unsuccessful in growing these crystals in hanging-drops or at 4 degrees. Deglycosylating the complex also leads to nowhere. In fact, we are only able to get crystals from homogeneously glycosylated protein produced in HEK293S/I- cells.
In the meantime we are playing with the idea of siliconizing the 
sitting-drop depressions to alter the crystal/plate interface. But 
then again, nucleation events on the plastic may be the reason we are 
getting crystals in the first place. We have also thought of trying 
microseeding to have more control on nucleation issues. Our protein 
production is quite limiting and forces us to be very selective with 
our experimentation.
Nonetheless, while we are waiting for fresh material to explore some 
of these ideas we would like to make the most out of the crystals we 
have grown thus far. We would therefore very much appreciate any 
input/ideas on manipulating these crystals for data collection.
Best wishes

Savvas

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Savvas Savvides
L-ProBE, Unit for Structural Biology
Ghent University
K.L. Ledeganckstraat 35
9000 Ghent, BELGIUM
office: +32-(0)9-264.51.24 ; mobile: +32-(0)472-92.85.19
Email: savvas.savvi...@ugent.be
http://www.lprobe.ugent.be/xray.html

*From:* CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] *On Behalf Of *Katarina Moravcevic
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:52 PM
*To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
*Subject:* [ccp4bb] pseudo translation

Hi all,

here is a question from a beginner. I have a home source data set that indexed and scaled in a P2 space group (a=46.704,b=59.362, c=48.783, alpha=90.0, beta=104.469, gamma=90.0) with predicted 2mol/au. After failing to get a MR solution with Phaser I ran the phenix.xtriage which showed that I have a large (89.18) Patterson peak at 0.5 0 0.5 which indicates pseudo translational symmetry. I was wondering if there is anything I could do with this data to get around this problem. Given that I don't have a lot of experience any suggestion/explanation would be fantastic.
Thanks in advance

K



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