From a system management point of view there is one very significant benefit to Ubuntu: The LTS releases come out every 2 years and are supported for 3 years. Compare this with Fedora: releases are only supported for 18 months.

Once you take into account testing and transition times, that means in practice with Fedora you are on a 1-year upgrade cycle, versus 2 years with Ubuntu.

(I used Fedora for years on my desktop machines and more recently Ubuntu on my laptops. It did take a couple of days getting used to the differences, but I find now that I prefer the setup of the Ubuntu system).

Andreas Förster wrote:
Re:  Switching from Fedora to Ubuntu.

Don't. Stick with Fedora if it works for you. If you're tempted by Ubuntu because of the coolness, the bling, the color, the limited customizability or the lack of root, a Mac will get you all of this much more abundantly.

If you're used to Redhat/Fedora, stick with it. Everything crystallography related works on it. I tried to set an ancient Vaio up with xUbuntu and went back to Redhat 9 after too much frustration. Things are not where they're supposed to be and don't work as they should. This is from a Redhat perspective, obviously, which I've been using since 5.2.


Andreas



Edward Snell wrote:
That would have saved me a lot of time and frustration! Now if only I can remember this for the next time J I have a 64bit Fedora 9 system running on an Lenovo Thinkstation D10 – you can buy this without the operating system. I used the 64bit option as I’m processing very high resolution X-ray data and needed to use more memory. I was able to get a 16 GB system for a reasonable cost.

If you are a tinkerer and want a few days of ‘fun’ this is a way to go. If not, commercially available Linux systems are available but I found few with a large memory capacity. Coot and CCP4 were a pain to compile in 64 bit mode (not the developers problem, just mine for trying to get them to work in 64 bit). I had to play with some header definitions, lop h’s off etc, add using namespace std and, install a lot of libraries but they now work well. Coot reads all the svg files and displays all the pretty icons. I like the PC Linux route mainly because the hardware is less expensive and easier to swap out components. I am used to Fedora and manage my own system so for the moment I plan to stick with that but it sounds like Ubuntu looks like an interesting way to go. Has anyone had any experiences in transitioning from Fedora to Ubuntu? Is it something to think about, a Thanksgiving project mainly?

Cheers,

Eddie

Edward Snell Ph.D.
Assistant Prof. Department of Structural Biology, SUNY Buffalo,
Hauptman-Woodward Medical Research Institute
700 Ellicott Street, Buffalo, NY 14203-1102
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Heisenberg was probably here!

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On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 09:40 -0500, James M. Vergis wrote:

2) Graphics Cards:

I like the Nvidia cards since they provide linux drivers.  ATI also does

now.  I would say the only thing I don't like about them is when you do a

kernel update you have to remake the driver.

I would just add that for those using Fedora, you can avoid having to remake the driver by using the RPMFusion repositories to install the Nvidia drivers. This way updating the kernel automatically installs the corresponding Nvidia kernel module. The same applies to AMD/ATI drivers.


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