Jan Abendroth a écrit :
Hi all,
kind of a weird problem - the R-factors of a refinement using the new twin refinement in refmac are low, almost suspiciously low: A good 1.9AA data set, space group H3/R3, many statistics starting with truncate's cumulative intensity distribution clearly suggest twinning. The structure (SSGCID target) was solved by MR, very rigid beta-helix (see 3bxy, very cool fold!), maps nice. I use refmac 5.5.0046 for refinement, with and without the new TWIN flag.

Here my concerns:
Despite 0.3/0.7 twin domains as suggested by various programs and refined by refmac, the difference of between the Rs of the twinned refinement and the non-twinned refinement are constantly rather little: 0.143/0.174 for the twinned case, 0.218/0.275 for the non-twinned case. This seems rather low to me for a quite high twin fraction. Plus the R-factors for the twinned case are really low for a 1.9AA structure. As expected, the maps from the twin treatment are a bit nicer that for the non-twinned treatment. Any reasons for concerns or just a very rigid structure that refines really well or refmac handling twinning really nicely?

Thanks for any input
Jan

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Jan Abendroth
deCODE biostructures
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home: Jan.Abendroth_at_gmail.com


Dear Jan,

The result looks reasonable to me.
Twinning has two effects:
The effective ration of observations/variables decreases with increasing twinning fraction.
The datasets become better as there are less weak and strong reflections.
This leads to a better fit so that your results do not surprise me.

Yours

Wim Burmeister


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