We also have this machine (Cartesian Honeybee X8 ) and can verify that dispensing 3 drops per condition increases the overall build time about 30 seconds. We have also recently acquired a Cartesian Honeybee 963 which will do the whole experiment setup, including dispensing precipitant into the well and onto the shelf, in 6 minutes for 2 protein sites (including all washes). A 3 site experiment would take 30 seconds longer. The actual time from first drop dispense to last is about 1 minute.

Stephen

SSPF
University of  St Andrews
We use Cartesian Honeybee X8 machines (8 tips). They take about 10 minutes to set a 96-drop plate including the washes of the tips. 3 or 4 drops per condition wouldnt take much longer. Optimisation and additive/detergent screens take a little less time.
The plates are pipetted under a close-fitting cover to (virtually) eliminate 
evaporation, which IMO is better than a humidity chamber. Consumable costs 
extend to isopropanol and water, with the occasional replacement valve or tip.

Since people here also tend to turn up at beer o'clock on a Friday evening 
(must be an Oxford thing...) we have two machines (and another one imminent) to 
increase throughput.

HTH
Tom

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---- Original message ----
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:10:26 -0400
From: JOE CRYSTAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] crystallisation robot To: [email protected]

  Hi,

  Does anyone have information about how long it takes to set up
a 96-well tray for the crystallization robots available? Besides cost per tray and maintenance cost, another important
  feature we consider is the time for setting up a 96-well
  tray.  It is an important factor since we are talking about
  sub-microliter drops.

  Best,

  Joe

  On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Lisa A Nagy
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    Al's Oil on the plates:
    What a nightmare!!!!!!!
    The oil creeps up the plate and over the sides. It dissolves
    adhesives.
    It makes me say bad words in multiple languages.
    Bigger drops + no oil = fewer bad words.
    Lisa
    --
    Lisa A. Nagy, Ph.D.
    University of Alabama-Birmingham
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

    -----Original Message-----
    From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
    Behalf Of
    Patrick Shaw Stewart
    Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:20 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] crystallisation robot

    One thing that people often overlook is that quite a lot of
    protein
    can be lost by denaturation on the surface of the drop.
     This is more
    significant for smaller drops.  Two suggestions: (1)
    increase the
    proportion of protein in the - technical term - teeny drop
    to say two
    thirds and (2) cover the drops with oil eg Al's oils
    (silicone/paraffin).  You still get vapor diffusion though
    the oil ,
    and you'd like to slow up equilibration.  of course (2)
    slows up the
    robotics a little, but both should be trivial to set up..


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