We use Cartesian Honeybee X8 machines (8 tips). They take about 10 minutes to 
set a 96-drop plate including the washes of the tips. 3 or 4 drops per 
condition wouldnt take much longer. Optimisation and additive/detergent screens 
take a little less time.  

The plates are pipetted under a close-fitting cover to (virtually) eliminate 
evaporation, which IMO is better than a humidity chamber. Consumable costs 
extend to isopropanol and water, with the occasional replacement valve or tip.

Since people here also tend to turn up at beer o'clock on a Friday evening 
(must be an Oxford thing...) we have two machines (and another one imminent) to 
increase throughput.

HTH
Tom

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---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:10:26 -0400
>From: JOE CRYSTAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] crystallisation robot  
>To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
>   Hi,
>
>   Does anyone have information about how long it takes to set up
>   a 96-well tray for the crystallization robots available? 
>   Besides cost per tray and maintenance cost, another important
>   feature we consider is the time for setting up a 96-well
>   tray.  It is an important factor since we are talking about
>   sub-microliter drops.
>
>   Best,
>
>   Joe
>
>   On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Lisa A Nagy
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>     Al's Oil on the plates:
>     What a nightmare!!!!!!!
>     The oil creeps up the plate and over the sides. It dissolves
>     adhesives.
>     It makes me say bad words in multiple languages.
>     Bigger drops + no oil = fewer bad words.
>     Lisa
>     --
>     Lisa A. Nagy, Ph.D.
>     University of Alabama-Birmingham
>     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>     Behalf Of
>     Patrick Shaw Stewart
>     Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:20 AM
>     To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>     Subject: [ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] crystallisation robot
>
>     One thing that people often overlook is that quite a lot of
>     protein
>     can be lost by denaturation on the surface of the drop.
>      This is more
>     significant for smaller drops.  Two suggestions: (1)
>     increase the
>     proportion of protein in the - technical term - teeny drop
>     to say two
>     thirds and (2) cover the drops with oil eg Al's oils
>     (silicone/paraffin).  You still get vapor diffusion though
>     the oil ,
>     and you'd like to slow up equilibration.  of course (2)
>     slows up the
>     robotics a little, but both should be trivial to set up..

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