On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:36:29 +0200 "George M. Sheldrick"
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> The SHELX license agreement has had an 'indemnity clause' in it 
> for the last 30 years and no-one has complained about it yet! See:
> http://shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de/SHELX/applfrm.htm
> 

I think the reason most folks have problems with the licensing on the
ccp4 *libraries* is that the ccp4 format for maps and reflection files
should be an *open* format - the way it stands now, without writing
your own library to access ccp4 files (and this is where ambiguity sets
in and I find the CCP4-type license completely lacking - can I look at
the source code from CCP4 and develop my own library based on what
I learn from the code?  Does it also matter if I'm a commercial
versus academic user?), there is *no way* you can redistribute a program
that depends on CCP4 formatted files without simply including said
program in the CCP4 distribution. The next best thing is to use the last
redistributable verson of the library, which seems to be what the bulk
of folks are doing these days.

With shelx its a non-issue, since (most) of the files it produces are
ascii.

The fact that most crystallographic programs use an "academics-are-free,
commercial-users-pay" style for all their licenses with all kinds of
additional conditionals (please give us all your personal information
and sign here, here and there!) also drives me up a wall, but thats
another story. So yes, I strongly disagree with the SHELX license, but
since its so frequently done amongst the crystallographic community,
I've almost come to expect it.

Regards,
Tim

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